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[mk3 Cooper S]

Hamilton/Mclaran have better grip on a wet track with dry tyres so he would have had kimi at some point before the end of the race.

[CharlieBrown]

I thought it was a great race and the end was very exciting.

Seemed to me that he let Kimi past then went on the attack again but then I'm no expert.

Thought it was a good win but apparently not.

[mk3 Cooper S]

Just watched it again and Hamilton bailed out of the corner without much attempt to make it,
He did look as if he basked out on the line but to overtake him on the next corner is seen as making an advantage. Still think he should have waited and taken him on the next corner.

[RacingGreen]

Just watched it again and Hamilton bailed out of the corner without much attempt to make it,
He did look as if he basked out on the line but to overtake him on the next corner is seen as making an advantage. Still think he should have waited and taken him on the next corner.

Finally, someone talks sense

[stevedx]

The FIA is a disgrace

[v8mini]

would be nice if the appeal does pay off, but are they really likely to back down on their decision.

if the roles were reversed and it was kimi taking lewis, would they have just let it go, or would kimi have been penalized ?

its nothing to do with who actually won the race, it was a great race, but this decision has made the whole thing a total shambles

[mk3 Cooper S]

Rules are rules.

They have seen both sets of telemetry and therefore are in the best position to determine what happened.
tHere was a few driver penalised in this race

[RacingGreen]

would be nice if the appeal does pay off, but are they really likely to back down on their decision.

if the roles were reversed and it was kimi taking lewis, would they have just let it go, or would kimi have been penalized ?

its nothing to do with who actually won the race, it was a great race, but this decision has made the whole thing a total shambles

Could i ask that to the people posting on this thread?

If the roles were reversed, would you be so bothered in protesting?

My guess, no.

Edited by RacingGreen, 07 September 2008 - 10:24 PM.

[Goliath]

Ferrari team principal Stefano Domenicali was thrilled with the turn of events, however, saying: "I have often said the race is not over until the official results are published and that was the case today."

Big stef here must go down to the Officials office after each race and presumabely, if he has enough money on offer, he gets the 'officially botched results' hes after....

[kjbenja]

Hamilton = English = Loser

Massa for the title

[Jammy]

Sorry, I fail to see how someone can gain an advantage from a chicane and mile further on down the track, after slowing down (which the telemetry clearly shows) to let the guy passed.

If you watched it again, Lewis was still beside him half way through the s-bend, I don't see how that's 'not trying' to get the line? And its plain to see that if he didn't bail at the point he did, he was about to hit kerb, grass, and then most probably Kimi's car.

[mini_morley]

I do not support any particular team in F1, but watch(ed) the sport for the racing, not for the FIA to make the decision afterwards. Hamilton clearly conceded the place back to Raikkonen after being forced off the track by him (it was that or hit Raikkonen). He followed the rules by conceding the place back, the made a legitimate overtake by out-braking Raikkonen into the next corner. Raikkonen then clipped the rear of Hamilton's car- surely this should also have been investigated? Also IF Hamilton had gained an advantage (which he hadn't IMO) then surely that was negated by him having to drive across the grass to avoid the car that spun in front of him and Raikkonen later on in the lap?
The FIAs bias is ruining F1, ir-regardless of which team you support (if any).

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http://www.planetf1....4116523,00.html

Just when you thought it couldn't get any more silly, the Stewards have now got themselves muddled. They have put out a statement that basically states Hamilton has been punished for simply leaving the track, irrespective of whether an advantage was gained!
This also will mean that they cannot appeal, as they cannot argue that Lewis didn't leave the track. However, most other drives left the track at one point or another!

Edited by [email protected], 08 September 2008 - 11:05 AM.

[CharlieBrown]

Oh now I get it.....

[mk3 Cooper S]

Sorry, I fail to see how someone can gain an advantage from a chicane and mile further on down the track, after slowing down (which the telemetry clearly shows) to let the guy passed.

If you watched it again, Lewis was still beside him half way through the s-bend, I don't see how that's 'not trying' to get the line? And its plain to see that if he didn't bail at the point he did, he was about to hit kerb, grass, and then most probably Kimi's car.

If he had followed him through the chicane he would not have been as close to him for the next corner as he was simply due to turbulance and the dirty air syndrome irrespective of if he lifted or not it was seen as an advantage was gained in terms of position on the track due to the fact he was in the position to challenge him on the next corner.

Think about the concetina effect on cars travelling through corners you see and as soon as the car in front gets on the power a few tenths of a second earlier they just pull away simply due to the difference and the time that the following driver can get on the power.

Listen to the interview of Mark Blundel after the penalty, he is not generally biast and says it how it is.