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#1 maryquant

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Posted 15 August 2015 - 07:05 PM

So the other day I was browsing Facebook and saw an ad for a eBay listing ending in a couple of hours. I put a low bid in thinking I would be outbid, but it turns out I won! Then the panic began as I had no way to sensibly transport the mini.... sensibly....

 

Here she is loaded in to the back of a MWB Renault Master - The gap between arches was about 2cm too small for it to drop down between, but we managed to prop underneath and it was fairly stable once strapped in.

 

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Here she is in her new home

 

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In general the shell isn't in too bad a condition, in fact the biggest problem areas are man made. The scuttle, A panels/posts, most of the boot floor and rear floor, quarters, steps etc are in usable condition. Here are some of the really bad bits.

 

Previous owner wanted to de-seam, but tried all over the car so lots to repair, centre at the back...

 

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Missing chunk of the roof

 

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All of the roof has bubbles of rust or holes around the edge

 

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And then this....

 

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Some loverly speaker holes  :angry:  :xxx:

 

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The de-seaming happened on the pillars a bit too

 

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Scuttle and inner wings don't look too bad though

 

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Will be worth removing the bulkhead i think and de-rusting then re-fitting

 

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Inside is pretty good, there is no rust on the dash rails, window frame etc, floors at the back are solid. Front pans need replacing and the inner sill needs work.

 

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I'm guessing it was on a spit too

 

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And a subframe and a load of other bits with the shell which was a bonus but by no means a complete car  :lol:

 

 

So that's the current state of it - time to get a pad and start thinking about what I want to do. Unlike Mary, with this project I have complete creative freedom so want to create something for me.


Edited by maryquant, 15 August 2015 - 07:12 PM.


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Posted 16 August 2015 - 08:35 AM

wow...



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Posted 16 August 2015 - 09:13 AM

Love the welding, fort mine was bad to start off with.

Hope your going to reseam it again?

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Posted 16 August 2015 - 04:41 PM

wow...

 

Pretty incredible isn't it  :ohno:

 

Love the welding, fort mine was bad to start off with.

Hope your going to reseam it again?

 

Yeah I am, whilst I have nothing against the deseamed look and think it can look great I personally prefer seams.  May need to learn how to do a bit of fabrication as I don't really want to buy new panels if all I need is the seam.



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Posted 16 August 2015 - 04:52 PM

Look forward to seeing this one take shape.

 

It's good if you want to learn fabrication etc as you will need to do quite a bit of everything on this one.

 

Good luck!

 

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Posted 16 August 2015 - 06:20 PM

I want to use this to develop my skills before getting stuck into Mary properly. I just had a go at welding tonight and im really struggling so much more practice needed.

 

Having just spent a good half hour staring at it I think it may even be easier to take the roof off before trying to repair it - thoughts? lol

 

Ill post pics of my welding as soon as its ground down, fillered, painted and polished.  :D  :shy:



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Posted 16 August 2015 - 10:14 PM

I wouldn't try and repair the roof I would just replace it with a decent second hand roof they come up quite often.

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Posted 16 August 2015 - 10:33 PM

I wouldn't try and repair the roof I would just replace it with a decent second hand roof they come up quite often.

 

Yeah would probably be easier - although i'm considering removing about 90% of the roof anyway for a sunroof. Will keep my eye open on the bay of E.



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Posted 17 August 2015 - 05:43 AM

Good luck with the build it looks like it fitted nicely in the back of that van lol



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Posted 17 August 2015 - 08:30 AM

 

I wouldn't try and repair the roof I would just replace it with a decent second hand roof they come up quite often.

 

Yeah would probably be easier - although i'm considering removing about 90% of the roof anyway for a sunroof. Will keep my eye open on the bay of E.

 

In that case, look out for a second hand roof.

 

By the time you chop you current one, only the rusty rotten bits will remain and the good bit in the bin :lol:

 

You will find that a used replacement roof will be much cheaper if it has the small sunroof hole in it because people don't tend to want them. ideal for you



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Posted 17 August 2015 - 09:44 PM

Will keep an eye out for a cheap roof a bit nearer the time, since its getting replaced entirely now it can wait a bit.

 

I got a great big nothing done today as just about everything that could go wrong did. I was aiming for some welding practice this morning after getting a new torch liner, tips, shroud, gasless wire and managing to reverse the polarity on the machine.

 

I got a few trials done before it broke again - here is me testing a 1 second weld on Power 1 with different wire speeds. I was quite happy with 4 but damned if I could reproduce it later.

 

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This next pic is embarrassing but remember its my first go and I'm practicing. I could not replicate the #4 weld above for the life of me, all I wanted was a neat line of them but it wasn't happening. 

 

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Part of the problem could be related to the wire feed, as its pretty knackered. Its one of these...

 

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The feed roller needs replacing as the 0.8 side has worn from a serrated edge to almost smooth and no matter how much tension is on the roller it just cant grip enough to feed the wire reliably and smoothly.

 

Then it stopped working completely. There was no power at the feed motor and after digging out a multi-meter I traced the problem here...

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This had de-soldered itself completely. I'm not sure if it got too hot and the solder melted, or if it was just a really bad joint to begin with but the component was about 10mm away from the pcb. Luckily though it worked again after a quick re-solder. 

 

Im going to have another practice tomorrow (if nothing else breaks on it) and then start covering some of the exposed bare metal on the shell. Its almost entirely taken back to bare metal but since there is quite a bit of moisture in the barn I want to tickle it with a wirewheel and then zinc primer it until im ready to work on each panel.

 

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Posted 17 August 2015 - 11:10 PM

If your welder can run gas, i would defiantly think about doing so.

 

It's so much easier and neater, especially for a beginner.



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Posted 17 August 2015 - 11:38 PM

Yeah it can, but I need to get everything for it - bottle & reg etc, which is another £150. 

 

From what I have seen from my dismantling of it over the last few days there is no method of controlling the gas flow during a weld, so its either always on or off which I think would mean the disposable bottles would last minutes.

 

What I probably should do is invest in a new welder with a guarantee and a course or two, but I'm a bit belligerent when it comes to getting this working for some reason and its getting a bit like triggers broom.



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Posted 17 August 2015 - 11:42 PM

Once you sort the wire feed out, it should be fine. With practice and patience, you will produce tidy strong welds.

 

I have been welding for over 15 years and still have bad days where i blow holes all over the place or get scruffy looking welds.

 

As long as you get good penetration and the weld is strong, You can tidy everything up nice with a grinder after



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Posted 18 August 2015 - 08:27 AM

Best advice I can give as a total noob myself is pulse weld. Over lap loads of tacks. If the settings are right and the metal clean. When you grind it back you have no idea at all.





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