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#106 KTS

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Posted 19 November 2018 - 11:33 PM

..it's certainly in the right place for it !!

 

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 01:00 PM

It's time to mock up some panels and see where we are with things

 

All I need at this stage is inner wing, outer wing, scuttle and A panel.

 

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And of course the door. I refreshed the hinges with new studs, pins and bushes

 

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The fit is reasonable

 

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A nice even tight gap around the top of the window frame

 

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And the bottom of the door has a nice even gap too

 

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The problem is that the gap is 2mm too wide at the front and 2mm too narrow at the back

 

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The window frame as I said is even and I certainly can't move the door forward to open up the gap at he back or this will cause issues with the top of the A post clashing with the window frame

 

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But I do have some space to play with here above the top hinge

 

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What I suspect is that the skin has been fitted too far back on the frame. Fitting a new skin a fraction forwards will even everything right out and most importantly not disturb the window frame which is pretty good.

 

Ill have to have a play and then see where to go.

 

Cheers

 

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 03:33 PM

A bit more playing around and the fit is marginally better but still not as good as It can be

 

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It's much nicer round the window frame and down the front but the back is still just kissing the side panel.

 

Suspicions of the door skin were confirmed by comparing the measurements with a known good door

 

PUP door

 

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Known good door

 

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So to prove the point I put the known good door onto the PUP

 

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That's better. Just goes to show what a difference a few mm can make when re-skinning a door.

The best thing to do is check and recheck the fit of a skin on the car before final folding and welding and I suppose it's worth measuring any replacement skin to make sure it's the same size as the one you currently have fitted.

 

I've not used repo door skins before and wonder if they were used on this car before and that's why they are bigger??

 

Cheers

 

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 05:51 PM

..that's a stroke of luck you've got a couple of good doors you can use  :D

 

any options other than reskinning the doors ?  



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Posted 21 November 2018 - 07:59 PM

..that's a stroke of luck you've got a couple of good doors you can use  :D

 

any options other than reskinning the doors ?  

Well i don't like to borrow bits usually but it was the only way I had of proving the point to myself so that I didn't go crazy!

 

There are other things I can do besides a re-skin. I could perhaps take some meat of the edge of the door and carefully weld it back up but there are risks of warping with that.

The only other option is to wait until I fit the new side panels and rob a couple of mm by positioning the side panel a gnats whisker back.

This will do the trick and won't make a blind bit of difference anywhere else I wouldn't have thought but you will always have the issue of the door being to wide which won't be a problem unless you ever need to (touch wood) replace the door. 

 

How do you want me to proceed?

 

Cheers

 

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 09:38 PM

..and there was me thinking you had a ready made solution to my problem.

 

i think this time, it's done properly    :shifty:

 

it's my belief that the passenger door will also need doing as apart from anything else the current skin doesn't follow the bodywork at all around the door handle, but i'll leave that decision to you...


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Posted 23 November 2018 - 06:51 AM

Those gaps are looking good, so cant wait to see this one done ;D



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Posted 23 November 2018 - 04:51 PM

I'm happy with the height and position of the step so that can now be welded in

 

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And then I removed all of the new panels again to fix the crossmember end

 

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Old one off and a clean up

 

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I could have cleaned up the removed piece and refitted it. It really wasn't bad at all but as it was off I made a shiny new one

 

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And fitted that

 

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Then back on with the panels

 

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And then the bonnet and other wing were loosly fitted to determine that it was going to work with the new inner wing at this position

 

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Everything is near enough to now enable me to settle on this as the final position of the inner wing so that can now be welded on

 

Cheers

 

Ben



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Posted 23 November 2018 - 06:25 PM

..starting to look like a car again  :proud:

 

while you're there, could you take a look at the engine steady bracket on the cross member and let me know what you think 

 

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Posted 23 November 2018 - 06:30 PM

..starting to look like a car again  :proud:

 

while you're there, could you take a look at the engine steady bracket on the cross member and let me know what you think 

 

cheers

Yep, no worries. I think ill bin it and stick a new one on. It's not the best and would need to come off to sort out some rust behind anyway.



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Posted 23 November 2018 - 10:28 PM

amazing work. i would love a pickup



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Posted 03 January 2019 - 04:26 PM

Happy new year to everyone.

 

Back on with the pick-up at last.

Continuing on from last time, I had got the inner wing clamped up in the right position and was happy with the fit of the external panels so I could get it welded on

 

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Then I could make a start fitting the door jamb panel to finish up the A post.

Sadly, the replacement panel isn't much good. The distances between the folds are too short so it just doesn't follow the shape of the step properly

 

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And I have quite a big gap to fill at the top

 

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I started with the bottom and just modified the shape as I welded it to get this

 

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And then after doing the same at the top and making a small fillet piece, I had this

 

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I popped the A panel and door on to see that it followed the shape of the A post properly which It did nicely

 

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Next up was the dodgy lower boxing panel

 

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I made a new piece

 

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Clamped in

 

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And then partially welded

 

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And then after finishing up the welding inside the car for the inner wing, boxing panel and a few screw holes, it got a coat of zinc

 

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And the same happened on the outside

 

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Before prepping the outer A panel and clamping it into position

 

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And then welding followed by zinc

 

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Next up, the other side needs the same treatment.

 

Cheers

 

Ben



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Posted 03 January 2019 - 08:23 PM

Happy new year to you too Ben

 

that's quite a job you've done on the door jamb - looks great !!



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Posted 04 January 2019 - 06:16 AM

Fantastic work (as always) 👍 And Happy Year Year to you!

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Posted 04 January 2019 - 06:45 AM

Like the above comment fantastic work, this pup is really coming together now.







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