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#61 mab01uk

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Posted 20 June 2009 - 10:37 PM

300m :dontgetit: thats like

300,000 cars



Indeed, but thankfully, mostly mundane Vauxhalls, Ford's, Citroens and hopefully people aren't stupid enough to bin some rare classics.

The following comes from Classic Car Weekly sadly this government care little about classic cars or our motoring heritage:-

SCRAPPAGE HITS CLASSICS!
More than 20 roadworthy classics destroyed in first week of scheme!

The government's controversial scrappage scheme came into effect last week. Sadly, the scheme has already led to the demise of at least 22 roadworthy classics that we know of - and there are bound to be more, writes Peter Simpson.

It's important to note too that these cars cannot have been total basket cases or even restoration projects.To qualify for the scrappage scheme a car has to have an MoT and to have belonged to its current keeper for at least a year.

To date the oldest - and rarest-confirmed scrappage victim is a 1966 Austin 1100-the Mk1 version of which there are thought to be less than 20 left in roadworthy condition. Next oldest was a '1968 Morris Minor. Both these were traded in against new Hyundais. We understand that Hyundai dealers have also taken in an MGB, MG Midget, Jaguar XJS and XJ6 and Fiat X1/19-all clearly classic and in the case of the Fiat a rare one - along with an Austin (not Rover) Metro, Nissan 300ZX, and no fewer than six Mazda MX-5s and seven MGFs.

Elsewhere the Dealer Principal of a London Citroen franchise told Classic Car Weeky that his company had already scrapped a one owner from new Citroen XM Estate in "near mint" condition. The dealership did not want to do this-the principal is a 'very avid' classic Citroen enthusiast who has restored several cars himself; however the simple truth was that he is running a business and the £2000 combined government and manufacturer grants exceeded the car's market value. The scrappage money was also available instantly whereas finding a buyer would have taken time.

However he also pointed out that scrappage is by no means always the most cost-effective route to buying a new car; often a deal involving other discounts and/or a pre-registered delivery mileage car is better.

In fact many dealers are sympathetic to the cause of saving classics but finding themselves with no option but to scrap. Roadworthy, a highly reputable family-run Suzuki dealership in Bristol had an enquiry on a new Alto from someone wanting to 'scrappage' a genuine 40,000mile 1974 Vauxhall Magnum.

The Magnum was the wife's car and with advancing years she was finding it less suitable for her needs. The dealer attempted to save the car by listing it on eBay - however to match the scrappage offer the car had to sell for more than its market value, so at the time of writing it remains unsold though we understand the dealership is trying to broker a deal that will see the car saved. Sales Executive Andy Tait said that the Magnum is "far too nice and unusual to crush "though in his position he needs to be realistic, adding: "Beyond trying to sell this car there's nothing more we can do. If we don't accept the car as part of the scheme then another dealership will."

These were also recently reported traded in by other car dealers:-
"We have an MG Midget and 2 classic Mini's coming in breaks my heart to be honest."
"Rare Morris Minor Pick-up, Triumph Vitesse, several Mk1 Escorts....................... :(

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Posted 20 June 2009 - 11:02 PM

300m :dontgetit: thats like

300,000 cars



Indeed, but thankfully, mostly mundane Vauxhalls, Ford's, Citroens and hopefully people aren't stupid enough to bin some rare classics.

The following comes from Classic Car Weekly sadly this government care little about classic cars or our motoring heritage:-

SCRAPPAGE HITS CLASSICS!
More than 20 roadworthy classics destroyed in first week of scheme!

The government's controversial scrappage scheme came into effect last week. Sadly, the scheme has already led to the demise of at least 22 roadworthy classics that we know of - and there are bound to be more, writes Peter Simpson.

It's important to note too that these cars cannot have been total basket cases or even restoration projects.To qualify for the scrappage scheme a car has to have an MoT and to have belonged to its current keeper for at least a year.

To date the oldest - and rarest-confirmed scrappage victim is a 1966 Austin 1100-the Mk1 version of which there are thought to be less than 20 left in roadworthy condition. Next oldest was a '1968 Morris Minor. Both these were traded in against new Hyundais. We understand that Hyundai dealers have also taken in an MGB, MG Midget, Jaguar XJS and XJ6 and Fiat X1/19-all clearly classic and in the case of the Fiat a rare one - along with an Austin (not Rover) Metro, Nissan 300ZX, and no fewer than six Mazda MX-5s and seven MGFs.

Elsewhere the Dealer Principal of a London Citroen franchise told Classic Car Weeky that his company had already scrapped a one owner from new Citroen XM Estate in "near mint" condition. The dealership did not want to do this-the principal is a 'very avid' classic Citroen enthusiast who has restored several cars himself; however the simple truth was that he is running a business and the £2000 combined government and manufacturer grants exceeded the car's market value. The scrappage money was also available instantly whereas finding a buyer would have taken time.

However he also pointed out that scrappage is by no means always the most cost-effective route to buying a new car; often a deal involving other discounts and/or a pre-registered delivery mileage car is better.

In fact many dealers are sympathetic to the cause of saving classics but finding themselves with no option but to scrap. Roadworthy, a highly reputable family-run Suzuki dealership in Bristol had an enquiry on a new Alto from someone wanting to 'scrappage' a genuine 40,000mile 1974 Vauxhall Magnum.

The Magnum was the wife's car and with advancing years she was finding it less suitable for her needs. The dealer attempted to save the car by listing it on eBay - however to match the scrappage offer the car had to sell for more than its market value, so at the time of writing it remains unsold though we understand the dealership is trying to broker a deal that will see the car saved. Sales Executive Andy Tait said that the Magnum is "far too nice and unusual to crush "though in his position he needs to be realistic, adding: "Beyond trying to sell this car there's nothing more we can do. If we don't accept the car as part of the scheme then another dealership will."

These were also recently reported traded in by other car dealers:-
"We have an MG Midget and 2 classic Mini's coming in breaks my heart to be honest."
"Rare Morris Minor Pick-up, Triumph Vitesse, several Mk1 Escorts....................... :(


that is bad news for all classic cars!!!!!!

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Posted 12 July 2009 - 11:02 PM

anybody whining about a couple of rotten minis being scrapped should watch this video - http://www.youtube.c...yer_profilepage
there's vans, an elf/hornet and a countryman/traveler destroyed. sad.

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 09:58 AM

anyone who thinks this scheme is a good idea is stupid. to produce a brand new car takes more energy and creates more pollution than it would to keep a currentley existing car on the road. all thses cars have to have mot for the scheme which means that they are at least meeting the minimum standard to be on the road. and like has been mentioned previosly people who have old cars mainley have them because they cannot afford new ones. even if they get £2000 off they still have to fork out the other at least £6 - £20 k for the rest!

its all about trying to make more money, just like everything is they dont not really care about the enviroment.

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 07:22 PM

there's vans, an elf/hornet and a countryman/traveler destroyed. sad.


But 25+ years ago when this was filmed there were far more scrapyards than now and most were packed full of rusty (and not so rusty) old Mini's.

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 07:36 PM

its not the governments fault that classic cars are being scrapped, its down to the actual owners not knowing he true value of their cars. nobody is forcing them to scrap them, and no amount of internet crusades are ever going to stop them doing it, unless you target the owners directly.

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Posted 10 August 2009 - 09:16 AM

We've just bought a car under this, trading in an old Micra for the record. There was a 60's Morris Minor that'd been chopped in against a Fiat500, the guys in the dealership were gutted as it was a lovely example too.

A 7 series Beamer and BGT had also been traded at neighbouring dealers.




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