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#121 adam_93rio

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 09:35 PM

i posted a comment on these peoples wall as they had remarks about slashing bmw minis tyres etc

just got a comment back saying

''this is a group dedicated to the great british mini we want to spit on the bmw version''

i still cant believe theres people out there like that. if anyone points out the thread for the bmw mini that was smashed up by classic owners im happy to merge them to save space, this one can be closed then


Can we all get back on topic now please


thanks BoboGib, i think i need green writing or something, maybe people will listen about getting it back to the topic, seems most people on here are here for the debate now

if it carries on i will send you a pm to close it, i dont want it on my name

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 09:36 PM

HAHAHAAA lol! your having a laugh, aren't you..... do you not think the new mini looks like the old one?? and if not, do you belive it looks like a BMW??
should've gone to speck savers!!


Not much no, but then I am 42 years old and I have cataracts forming now. Either way if others like it and are happy to see it as a replacement then fine. But it's just not Mini to me. No it's more Metro.


hahahaa lol! metro?? what the hell it looks nothinglike the metro!! that's something you should be angry at, it was developed to kill off the mini!!

haha cool, i never knew about the taxi thing lol!!
and to be honest, all cars made befor the 90's are *poo poo* UNLESS!! someone has spent time and money on keeping it up running and alive!


Well there you go and you're just as opinionated as me then.

is that not true??

but, if they were left we wouldn't have any of them left as the build quality is *poo poo* my 2001 mpi was rotten as hell and looked shocking on the front by 2003 (it had done about 20K miles and lived in a dry proper brick garage!!) with the work i've had done (new front end etc!) the work done (by rover!) to fit 13'' wheels involves snipping and folding over the arce with a hammer!! there crap!!
that problem isn't the case with the new one's as time has moved on and things are made to better standard now.


But which company developed the MPi Mini and it's build quality and quality control? Any guesses?


i do believe it was funded by bmw, but rover's machines put em together! the MEMS system (tho untunable!) pulled off an epic feat to run such a stupid setup of an injection engine! K-series anyone!! lol!

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 09:39 PM

HAHAHAAA lol! your having a laugh, aren't you..... do you not think the new mini looks like the old one?? and if not, do you belive it looks like a BMW??
should've gone to speck savers!!


Not much no, but then I am 42 years old and I have cataracts forming now. Either way if others like it and are happy to see it as a replacement then fine. But it's just not Mini to me. No it's more Metro.


hahahaa lol! metro?? what the hell it looks nothinglike the metro!! that's something you should be angry at, it was developed to kill off the mini!!

haha cool, i never knew about the taxi thing lol!!
and to be honest, all cars made befor the 90's are *poo poo* UNLESS!! someone has spent time and money on keeping it up running and alive!


Well there you go and you're just as opinionated as me then.

is that not true??

but, if they were left we wouldn't have any of them left as the build quality is *poo poo* my 2001 mpi was rotten as hell and looked shocking on the front by 2003 (it had done about 20K miles and lived in a dry proper brick garage!!) with the work i've had done (new front end etc!) the work done (by rover!) to fit 13'' wheels involves snipping and folding over the arce with a hammer!! there crap!!
that problem isn't the case with the new one's as time has moved on and things are made to better standard now.


But which company developed the MPi Mini and it's build quality and quality control? Any guesses?


i do believe it was funded by bmw, but rover's machines put em together! the MEMS system (tho untunable!) pulled off an epic feat to run such a stupid setup of an injection engine! K-series anyone!! lol!



A 'K' series meant they had to fatten up the look of the Mini for it to fit effectively. So that's where the 'Minki' prototype comes in and doesn't look quite right.

I hope you checked the YouTube video's out on message '120'?

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Posted 10 February 2010 - 07:27 AM

My MINI + classic owner=damage and repair costs.
Having mine damaged and hearing and reading the same old crap all the time Ive decided that I'm not going to let the 1% of morons from stopping me enjoying going to shows in it. People don't like it then fine just expect to get an answer back and it will not be nice! I dont mind having a laugh with others at shows they give i give back have a laugh end of story, Its just the nasty ones who shout it right in your face that gets to me!
Every one has an opinion i love the classic mini but not the clubman with it square front end but i don't shout about it at shows on forums etc, so i expect the same but theres hoping for a miracle! Unlike one person from a northern club who makes it his duty to go around at every show slagging them off in a loud voice! This is what dividing the mini/MINI family and to be blunt its 9 years its getting old so time to move on, it also seems that its only in this country that this goes on reading a thread from some one in Finland there is family banter between the to and both in clubs so why not here?

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Posted 10 February 2010 - 11:36 PM

This is what dividing the mini/MINI family and to be blunt its 9 years its getting old so time to move on, it also seems that its only in this country that this goes on reading a thread from some one in Finland there is family banter between the to and both in clubs so why not here?


BMW and it's shoddy treatment to the classic Mini fraternity perhaps?

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 05:46 AM

This is what dividing the mini/MINI family and to be blunt its 9 years its getting old so time to move on, it also seems that its only in this country that this goes on reading a thread from some one in Finland there is family banter between the to and both in clubs so why not here?


BMW and it's shoddy treatment to the classic Mini fraternity perhaps?

Yes at first but they have since said that they are sorry! and that they went the wrong way of doing things. Now i know it was late in coming but now BMW has said it would like to help any thing that it can. If you remember they helped fund the imm in both 08 and 09 which is a big help in the cash flow of the clubs holding the show. They didn't over power at last years show and put on display of classic minis and 1 new in a big tent. They didn't push the new and there were not any big posters and signs. Now they didn't have to do it as they held the big mini united at Silverstone which was a good weekend. The amount of classics that turned up was great but they were mainly from main land Europe, this was a great shame because if some one from Poland can drive all that way i count not see why classic owner who live only a few hours away couldn't be arsed because of this mini/MINI thing!
This is the perfect time to move on and start a fresh and go forward in to the future with mini/MINI and not still sit in the past.BMW/MINI would like to work with suppliers and shows and Many more people would like to attend shows, but it the nastiness of some people that put them off. At many shows last year there was a greater number of clubs which have the new mini, but looking around there was a load of empty stands were only classics are allowed just because they didn't bother to turn up.
Now they have said sorry and would like to move on and try and correct things, yes its been a long time coming and they are trying so lets go from here and enjoy both cars and have a united mini family than a divided one were certain people go out of there way to ruin peoples enjoyment of the mini/MINI.
Lets make it friendly banter and not the nastiness that some people go out and do!
mini/MINI heres to the next 50 years.

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 07:02 AM

jesus they are cars I personally couldn't give a stuff how BMW treated classic mini owners, how sad do you have to be to damage somebodies car because you don't like the company that built it.
I don't consider the Bini to be a mini, but wouldn't be petty enough to damage one. To me they are just another car does what it says on the tin, not bad looking.

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 08:25 AM

driving my bini today i flashed a proper mini and she waved back lol !

as has been said, minority try to spoil it for everyone else...


sad haha

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 08:33 AM

This is what dividing the mini/MINI family and to be blunt its 9 years its getting old so time to move on, it also seems that its only in this country that this goes on reading a thread from some one in Finland there is family banter between the to and both in clubs so why not here?


BMW and it's shoddy treatment to the classic Mini fraternity perhaps?

Yes at first but they have since said that they are sorry! and that they went the wrong way of doing things. Now i know it was late in coming but now BMW has said it would like to help any thing that it can. If you remember they helped fund the imm in both 08 and 09 which is a big help in the cash flow of the clubs holding the show. They didn't over power at last years show and put on display of classic minis and 1 new in a big tent. They didn't push the new and there were not any big posters and signs. Now they didn't have to do it as they held the big mini united at Silverstone which was a good weekend. The amount of classics that turned up was great but they were mainly from main land Europe, this was a great shame because if some one from Poland can drive all that way i count not see why classic owner who live only a few hours away couldn't be arsed because of this mini/MINI thing!
This is the perfect time to move on and start a fresh and go forward in to the future with mini/MINI and not still sit in the past.BMW/MINI would like to work with suppliers and shows and Many more people would like to attend shows, but it the nastiness of some people that put them off. At many shows last year there was a greater number of clubs which have the new mini, but looking around there was a load of empty stands were only classics are allowed just because they didn't bother to turn up.
Now they have said sorry and would like to move on and try and correct things, yes its been a long time coming and they are trying so lets go from here and enjoy both cars and have a united mini family than a divided one were certain people go out of there way to ruin peoples enjoyment of the mini/MINI.
Lets make it friendly banter and not the nastiness that some people go out and do!
mini/MINI heres to the next 50 years.


Thank you 'Dave585' for talking sense..........I think the majority of us agree with you that its time to move on after nearly 10 years and its great to see the growing numbers of Mini enthusiasts who now own both a Mini & MINI and the many clubs and forums like BMC and TotalMini.com who welcome ALL Mini's.

Also to see AROnline has recently voted the MINI 'Car of the Decade' :)
http://www.aronline.co.uk/

Quotes from AROnline article:
"....thanks to the engineering excellence of the components on offer from the BMW parts bin, such as the Z-axle rear suspension (shared with the Rover 75/MG ZT), and the sheer skill of Rover's chassis team in dialling-in a perfectly honed set-up, the MINI was always going to be a great car to drive. And so it proved. When the road testers finally got hold of the MINI, they were bowled over by its overall dynamics and smart styling, and almost universally gave it a very big thumbs-up.

But once it hit the showroom, there was no stopping the MINI. Along with serious sales in the UK and Europe, the MINI triumphantly returned to the USA, and proved a strong seller from the start. Across the world's smartest cities, MINI became the car to be seen in - and also proved that eager customers would pay premium prices for small cars, when the conventional thinking at the time was that mini-cars should command mini-prices. As for the much-touted rivalry between BMW, Mercedes-Benz and Audi in the small car sector, the Oxford built car easily saw off its (far more intelligently packaged) Stuttgart rival, as well as the incredibly prescient aluminium bodied A2, which petered out unreplaced following an unexpectedly short production run.

But there's no getting away from it - MINI made owning a small car cool again, and arguably became the first genuinely classless supermini since the original Renault 5 in 1972 or maybe, just maybe, the Metro during its honeymoon period in the spring of 1981. But because of that, it easily wins the AROnline Car of the Decade award, as it's just as relevant now (if not more so) going into these tough times, as it was when it was launched in 2000.
The real tragedy, of course, was just how much of Rover's work went into it, and how little credit the British have subsequently received......"

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Edited by mab01uk, 11 February 2010 - 08:35 AM.


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Posted 11 February 2010 - 09:34 AM

I have joined this Group, it is a true fact i'm in a 100% No BMW mini club and thats how it should be, I understand they bought the name Mini why couldnt they just call it their original idea BMW One?

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 09:46 AM

I have joined this Group, it is a true fact i'm in a 100% No BMW mini club and thats how it should be, I understand they bought the name Mini why couldnt they just call it their original idea BMW One?


because BMW dont do FWD cars do they? thats the reason MINI is now a standalone company!

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 09:47 AM

Up to now this thread has been a healthy discussion from both sides , lets keep it that way.

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 10:04 AM

Simple fact is...at least we can always take the credit

Your BMW wouldnt have been here without the mini...

Plus at least we can say we can get our hands dirty, not affraid to dive in to our A series...

To feel it, Fix it to To learn!

They may break down, but we will try and fix it before we cry down the phone to the AA or RAC etc....

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 10:07 AM

this thread aint an attack at the BINI's!!! no threads are!

it started of with people being disgusted at a facebook group, then a discussion about peoples different views on the views about BINIs, lets keep it on those 2, not a slanging match! its good to be able to air our views on here on the matter, without constant threats from admin to shut it down because of aggressive comments!

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 10:10 AM

We dont take a decission to close thread lightly,and when forum guidlines are clearly being broken,then a decission will be made,up to now people have been having a healthy discussion,So AS I SAID,LETS KEEP IT THAT WAY,thanks




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