142 replies to this topic

[The_Mistro]

You can rant as much as you like, but the Germans had the VW Beetle and that didn't change a great deal in it's very long lifetime. No and the Mini was much the same and that's what makes or made it so special.

If you can't see that, then you need to do more research.

But each to their own. Just stop calling people idiots simply because they have a different view to you.

It's a free world after all. Or at least it is since we beat Hitler during WW2.

wow your rasist too. since we beat hitler... yawn you say i should do research, honestly if the americans weren't involved we'dve been talking german.
honestly thats areally chavvy thing to even think of saying!

and 'the germans had the vw' whats that mean... you upset that there taking everything british from you... unfortunately pal germany can build cars, we cant. as people like you cant allow yourself top move on and change thinigs. the MINI (or bini as it's really wittly called!) is a great new model of a great ENGLISH car. p.s. Beetles are prettymuch the worst car you could ever drive, try a 1998 model (imported from mexico where they made them till 2003) still looking sounding and driving like a powerless cold box. they never moved on with anything on that at all!! the engine is awefull and noisey gutless and un effiecient!!
they sold well as they were cheep as *yellow human water* in a time where the country of origin was in masses of debt!

the mini atleast tried to make injection etc work! i like that you haven't even paid notice to anything i've said about the shape changing slow, or even able to make a half harted attemp to comment on what i said about the gold comparison of shape changing! as thats all the new mini is, a shape change for a modern time
nope you just went into a noble stance of dumb witted britishness, suppose you have a THE SUN poster of british jobs for british people...

how did you get anything racist from that? there was nothing racial in that post at all! and we? could mean an allied method!? seriously dude! what you just said about the beatle, would upset VW enthusiasts, just like the comments from the totalmini forum have upset us!!

[shorty]

how did you get anything racist from that? there was nothing racial in that post at all! and we? could mean an allied method!? seriously dude! what you just said about the beatle, would upset VW enthusiasts, just like the comments from the totalmini forum have upset us!!

nicely put Mistro.




VW owners would be just as upset as we are now and im sure as some bini owners are.

what you've said just doesn't prove a point at all.

[taffy1967]

You can rant as much as you like, but the Germans had the VW Beetle and that didn't change a great deal in it's very long lifetime. No and the Mini was much the same and that's what makes or made it so special.

If you can't see that, then you need to do more research.

But each to their own. Just stop calling people idiots simply because they have a different view to you.

It's a free world after all. Or at least it is since we beat Hitler during WW2.

wow your rasist too. since we beat hitler... yawn you say i should do research, honestly if the americans weren't involved we'dve been talking german.
honestly thats areally chavvy thing to even think of saying!

and 'the germans had the vw' whats that mean... you upset that there taking everything british from you... unfortunately pal germany can build cars, we cant. as people like you cant allow yourself top move on and change thinigs. the MINI (or bini as it's really wittly called!) is a great new model of a great ENGLISH car. p.s. Beetles are prettymuch the worst car you could ever drive, try a 1998 model (imported from mexico where they made them till 2003) still looking sounding and driving like a powerless cold box. they never moved on with anything on that at all!! the engine is awefull and noisey gutless and un effiecient!!
they sold well as they were cheep as *yellow human water* in a time where the country of origin was in masses of debt!

the mini atleast tried to make injection etc work! i like that you haven't even paid notice to anything i've said about the shape changing slow, or even able to make a half harted attemp to comment on what i said about the gold comparison of shape changing! as thats all the new mini is, a shape change for a modern time
nope you just went into a noble stance of dumb witted britishness, suppose you have a THE SUN poster of british jobs for british people...

Oh so I'm a racist chav for stating how we beat Hitler during WW2? How predictable and a typical reply from someone whose obviously immature and has yet to reach puberty.

We are all entitled to our own opinions and it's very good if the BINI is helping keep the original alive via the Mini specialists etc. But that doesn't mean I have to like it. There's lots of cars I don't particularly like, but I absolutely love the original Mini, always have and always will.

So if that's racist or chav like then I don't really care. But I just wish you'd use a spell checker, because you're far more chav like than me matey.

[ukcooper]

As for the few who damage car's of any type you will never stop them and nothing can be done to stop them as it all done there and then.

Bini's well the moaning and graoning will stop in 50 years if there any about, but saying that aint all cars got about 20 years left till we run out off oil.

Just wondering what would happen if rover had bourght and built the fiat 500 or the cv2 even the mighty mrk1 gti golf. Im dam sure the french would have burnt every rover in france:-) .

P.s. THE SUN poster of british jobs for british people ... TO DAM RIGHT ...

Edited by ukcooper, 08 February 2010 - 08:59 PM.

[CobraV8]

Our family has a classic Mini and a BMW Mini, and we love them both. They are great for different reasons. My old Cooper has loads of character, fun to drive and we all enjoy it. I would never contemplate using the car for really long drives tho. The BMW Mini is fun to drive, great power with its supercharger, comfortable on a long trip, handles well and we have had some fun drives with the two of them together.

Should BMW have made the Mini as it was - no...it would have gone bust. Most people want new cars that are quiet, strong, capable of passing crash tests etc. It was time to be modernized, and I personally think that the designers (whoever they were) did a great job. BMW have made a Mini that in modern times will sell in large numbers as opposed to a niche for a new car that was designed 5o years ago.

I live in New Zealand, so am a little removed from the job loss feelings for you guys, but the facts as I see it - if BMW had not purchased Mini - you would have no Minis being made at all, it has kept some of the jobs going, and kept an iconic brand and at least the modern version of Mini alive.

I can understand classic owners not liking a modern car - dont buy one, but stop putting others down and harping on about them, that is the one thing i do not like about this forum.

[sir Jake the brit]

how did you get anything racist from that? there was nothing racial in that post at all! and we? could mean an allied method!? seriously dude! what you just said about the beatle, would upset VW enthusiasts, just like the comments from the totalmini forum have upset us!!

the bit about the beetle, they stopped making them in europe years and years ago, they didnt try to keep making them and loosing money, they made them (for some reason) in mexico and never moved them on, there an awefull drive honestly.they sold epically well because of the sitiation they were built in, was it 26,000,000 units or something daft, that makes the minis sales look awefull! lol! 5,500,000 in 40 years lol! but still come on, what sort of comeback to this thread is, bringing up the war... it just seems childish and ill informed (maybe i should have put that not rasist! LOL!)

[1293sleeper]

vw owners were far more excepting of the new beetle i know its mainly due to fact its owned by the same company but they still even argue about letting them into the shows i used to laugh at this when i was a mechanic at a aircooled specialist but im pretty sure all the vw boys/gals took it a lot more light heartedly that people who own minis it was more like friendly banter with them. they kept the original beetle n type2 (camper) in production in mexico as they cost about half as much to make as mini and they just keep going forever and if the engine does die its 3 bolts a couple of pipes and a cable to undo and the engine is out its perfect for a developing country, low cost motoring for the masses.

Edited by 1293sleeper, 08 February 2010 - 09:05 PM.

[taffy1967]

you know what im bored of this i don't like BINIs but no one on here can agrue that they are very well made good quality cars and they have bought a lot off attention back to the classic mini scene the only problem is that people (myself included) don't like the fact that bmw make them but thats not the owners or bmws fault as if British leyand and rover had bothered to properly develope the car then maybe it would of stayed british it could be worse the name could of died with the british motor trade at least this way some of the british jobs were kept.

Developing the Mini had nothing to do with the downfall of British Leyland, Austin Rover or Rover etc etc. They had far more models to worry about than the humble Mini.

The Mini wasn't their bread and butter, it was just a good little earner that provided them with lots of good will in the foreign countries they exported their range of cars to.

Right I'm fed up now, because some people are just making stuff up or have had funny dreams lately.

[sir Jake the brit]

Our family has a classic Mini and a BMW Mini, and we love them both. They are great for different reasons. My old Cooper has loads of character, fun to drive and we all enjoy it. I would never contemplate using the car for really long drives tho. The BMW Mini is fun to drive, great power with its supercharger, comfortable on a long trip, handles well and we have had some fun drives with the two of them together.

Should BMW have made the Mini as it was - no...it would have gone bust. Most people want new cars that are quiet, strong, capable of passing crash tests etc. It was time to be modernized, and I personally think that the designers (whoever they were) did a great job. BMW have made a Mini that in modern times will sell in large numbers as opposed to a niche for a new car that was designed 5o years ago.

I live in New Zealand, so am a little removed from the job loss feelings for you guys, but the facts as I see it - if BMW had not purchased Mini - you would have no Minis being made at all, it has kept some of the jobs going, and kept an iconic brand and at least the modern version of Mini alive.

I can understand classic owners not liking a modern car - dont buy one, but stop putting others down and harping on about them, that is the one thing i do not like about this forum.

good man well said,

that orange mini is stunning pal looks epic with the bright orange and mk1 stylee!! love it!

[sir Jake the brit]

it was just a good little earner that provided them with lots of good will in the foreign countries they exported their range of cars to.

not strickly true tho.... didn't every mini make a loss (apparently!!)

[taffy1967]

Our family has a classic Mini and a BMW Mini, and we love them both. They are great for different reasons. My old Cooper has loads of character, fun to drive and we all enjoy it. I would never contemplate using the car for really long drives tho. The BMW Mini is fun to drive, great power with its supercharger, comfortable on a long trip, handles well and we have had some fun drives with the two of them together.

Should BMW have made the Mini as it was - no...it would have gone bust. Most people want new cars that are quiet, strong, capable of passing crash tests etc. It was time to be modernized, and I personally think that the designers (whoever they were) did a great job. BMW have made a Mini that in modern times will sell in large numbers as opposed to a niche for a new car that was designed 5o years ago.

I live in New Zealand, so am a little removed from the job loss feelings for you guys, but the facts as I see it - if BMW had not purchased Mini - you would have no Minis being made at all, it has kept some of the jobs going, and kept an iconic brand and at least the modern version of Mini alive.

I can understand classic owners not liking a modern car - dont buy one, but stop putting others down and harping on about them, that is the one thing i do not like about this forum.

Yes well I'm told a Rolls Royce has a very nice comfortable ride and is also very quiet. But that's not a proper Mini either.

I agree the original couldn't last forever, but putting a Mini badge on a mid sized hatchback is taking the *yellow human water*. Plus I'm sure BMW could have called it the BMW 1 series or whatever and it would have sold the same.

[The_Mistro]

how did you get anything racist from that? there was nothing racial in that post at all! and we? could mean an allied method!? seriously dude! what you just said about the beatle, would upset VW enthusiasts, just like the comments from the totalmini forum have upset us!!

the bit about the beetle, they stopped making them in europe years and years ago, they didnt try to keep making them and loosing money, they made them (for some reason) in mexico and never moved them on, there an awefull drive honestly.they sold epically well because of the sitiation they were built in, was it 26,000,000 units or something daft, that makes the minis sales look awefull! lol! 5,500,000 in 40 years lol! but still come on, what sort of comeback to this thread is, bringing up the war... it just seems childish and ill informed (maybe i should have put that not rasist! LOL!)

they were sold as taxis, but an unexpected law was passed which meant that taxis had to have 4 doors, which overnight killed it off! as has been said, one mans scrap is another mans gold, you might think there rubbish, but another man may love them! there are loads of VW and Mini fans on here, Bungle for example! im sure he wouldnt agree with your comments! its a harsh thing to say, if a VW fan said that about your mini, you wouldnt be happy! so why say it about their car? everyone has a car they are passionate about, Taffys is clealy the Mini, the same as me, others may be Beatles for w/e reason! and for some people the BINI, just got to accept it, but we have to see everyones point of views at the same time!

[1293sleeper]

you know what im bored of this i don't like BINIs but no one on here can agrue that they are very well made good quality cars and they have bought a lot off attention back to the classic mini scene the only problem is that people (myself included) don't like the fact that bmw make them but thats not the owners or bmws fault as if British leyand and rover had bothered to properly develope the car then maybe it would of stayed british it could be worse the name could of died with the british motor trade at least this way some of the british jobs were kept.

Developing the Mini had nothing to do with the downfall of British Leyland, Austin Rover or Rover etc etc. They had far more models to worry about than the humble Mini.

The Mini wasn't their bread and butter, it was just a good little earner that provided them with lots of good will in the foreign countries they exported their range of cars to.

Right I'm fed up now, because some people are just making stuff up or have had funny dreams lately.

and all of them where using out dated tech bl went wrong as they treated there staff like crap and made every car down to the lowest cost they could thats why my 89 mini had nearly as much rust and problems than my 64 that stood in a field for 15years

[The_Mistro]

Yes well I'm told a Rolls Royce has a very nice comfortable ride and is also very quiet. But that's not a proper Mini either.

I agree the original couldn't last forever, but putting a Mini badge on a mid sized hatchback is taking the *yellow human water*. Plus I'm sure BMW could have called it the BMW 1 series or whatever and it would have sold the same.

cant do that, its not RWD goes against everything BMW stand for..............................................

[taffy1967]

it was just a good little earner that provided them with lots of good will in the foreign countries they exported their range of cars to.

not strickly true tho.... didn't every mini make a loss (apparently!!)

No, Ford thought so but then Ford didn't have the Longbridge production line. Okay profits were very slim to say the least at first. But if it was such a loss maker, Donald Stokes (BL's 1st company director and the Mini Cooper axeman) would have killed it for sure during the late 1960's.

It was facing the axe in 1987, but the new boss (Graham Day) vetoed that and raised it's profile instead. As the tooling was all paid for by then, he said it was a good little earner and said they should have introduced it in Japan decades ago, because the Japanese went nuts for them.

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