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[Dan]

for every 1p rise in petrol the government makes an extra £500 million pounds.

Based on a report from the Daily Mail? Fuel duty is a fixed sum per litre, it doesn't rise with the price of the raw fuel. The only increase in income for the government (whoever they may be) that is derived from a rise in the price of fuel is from the VAT. To make £500,000,000 from 20% vat on a 1p rise in price, the country would have to consume 250,000,000,000 litres of fuel. That's roughly 10 times the UK annual rate of consumption.

Fuel duty has been around for many years, what the Tories introduced last time they were in was the fuel duty accelerator, which automatically increased the rate of duty annually according to a fixed formula. I think this has now been stopped and any increase is calculated more sensibly now. They claimed it was a pollution control like Diesel duty but it very conveniently made the Government a lot of money from a product we couldn't really do without because they have never provided a sensible alternative.

I have an idea that I may talk to my MP about to allow public transport providers to claim back a large amount of their fuel duty, providing they spend it on new services and maintenance rather than dividends. It would make public transport a hell of a lot cheaper and allow providers to put more money into developing better services. I'm assuming they currently pay duty, I haven't looked into it yet.

[Burnard]

The demand for fuel would be allot lower if people stopped driving their kids 1 mile to school every day. Traffic would also be allot better.


I personally think they should get rid of road tax, and put it all on the fuel, that way people are getting charged for how much they use the roads, and also how much they are polluting. Maybe charge an extra 5p per litre for 4x4's. All done off ANPR.

Its a setup which in the current day could work very easily, and be much fairer and sensible than the current setup.

[Juju]

I'm converting the mini to run on my own wee.

I just need to hit the bottle harder to bring up my levels of excreted volatiles.

[1984mini25]

I'm converting the mini to run on my own wee.

I just need to hit the bottle harder to bring up my levels of excreted volatiles.

Pmsl, now theres an idear

[TfcIan]

im not worried bout this for the running of my mini because lets face it its not that expensive to fill your tank.



My daily driver is close on £90 to fill and i can eat that fuel in a week.


I am on the "I have no choice bench" I can keep my mini in the garage but i still have to do my job and that requires a car. Plenty of you out there can swap from your car to pubic transport (Freudian slip!!).

I don't know where you live but for me the price of fuel used for my journey to college/work is less than it would cost to make the journey on public transport and I also won't be left with a long walk from the bus stop to my destination.

[maggies_minder]

for every 1p rise in petrol the government makes an extra £500 million pounds.

Based on a report from the Daily Mail? Fuel duty is a fixed sum per litre, it doesn't rise with the price of the raw fuel. The only increase in income for the government (whoever they may be) that is derived from a rise in the price of fuel is from the VAT. To make £500,000,000 from 20% vat on a 1p rise in price, the country would have to consume 250,000,000,000 litres of fuel. That's roughly 10 times the UK annual rate of consumption.

Fuel duty has been around for many years, what the Tories introduced last time they were in was the fuel duty accelerator, which automatically increased the rate of duty annually according to a fixed formula. I think this has now been stopped and any increase is calculated more sensibly now. They claimed it was a pollution control like Diesel duty but it very conveniently made the Government a lot of money from a product we couldn't really do without because they have never provided a sensible alternative.

I have an idea that I may talk to my MP about to allow public transport providers to claim back a large amount of their fuel duty, providing they spend it on new services and maintenance rather than dividends. It would make public transport a hell of a lot cheaper and allow providers to put more money into developing better services. I'm assuming they currently pay duty, I haven't looked into it yet.

not the daily mail, the BBC see link

http://www.bbc.co.uk...siness-12098981

[danrock101]

It works out cheaper for me to get the bus to work than to drive but ads 45min to 1.5 hour on my journey each way, I'd ride a bike to go to work but I don't like riding on the roads with cars mm away from touching me.
Burnad, what would happen if I took in a 7.5 gal jerry can to the petrol station?

[Jordie]

£10 got me 7.48 litres of diesel last night.

Its a joke man, filling my volvo each week used to cost me £40-50 now its getting closer to £60-65

[maggies_minder]

i cant work out if my economy in my mini is poor, i dont get many miles for £10 around town but then again i dont get much petrol either.

*sigh*

[AVV IT]

Its a joke man, filling my volvo each week used to cost me £40-50 now its getting closer to £60-65

That's one small tanked Volvo!! I'm lucky if I get much change out of £100 when I fill up my 4x4 these days!! (which is why I seem to be using the mini more & more )

Edited by AVV IT, 10 January 2011 - 05:56 PM.

[1984mini25]

Its alright saying you can just use the bus, but for me if I wanted to go most places just 5 miles down the road, I’d have to get a 45 minuet bus ride into the centre and then another back out again to the actual destination I wanted to go to in the first place. Then have to do the same to come back. 4 busses, 3 hours and twice the cost just to do a round trip of 10 miles.

But if the prices of fuel keep going up on an almost weekly basis, it’s not just at the pumps people will be hit. Anything that’s transported by road will also go up, as the cost of delivery increases.

Edited by 1984mini25, 10 January 2011 - 05:56 PM.

[AVV IT]

Its alright saying you can just use the bus, but for me if I wanted to go most places just 5 miles down the road, I’d have to get a 45 minuet bus ride into the centre and then another back out again to the actual destination I wanted to go to in the first place. Then have to do the same to come back. 4 busses, 3 hours and twice the cost just to do a round trip of 10 miles.

I couldn't agree more, the public transport is absolutely appalling in this country. I regularly travel around Europe on public transport as it's clean, reliable & readily available. Above all it's cheap & I wouldn't dream of taking my car instead due to the cost & inconvenience of doing so, if public transport were a real alternative to the car in this country then I'd be more than happy to use it!

[Carlzilla]

the fuel cost here is roughly the same as america, its just that we pay a hell of a lot of tax on top of ours. This government are a bunch of thieves >

Edited by Carlzilla, 10 January 2011 - 06:24 PM.

[samsfern]

i was pretty ******* when i paid 137.9p a litre for shell v-power, what the hell! When i started driving, just over 2 years ago it was 99.9p or v-power.

Thing is, its a neccessity, people dont have a choice other than to buy it.

[Merlin-Mini]

People who are on facebook should join this casue:

http://www.causes.com/causes/434764

its called Keep fuel Below 1.00 Per Litre.

this cause is trying to combat the fuel rise by creating an online petition which it plans to send off to No 10 soon when the required amount of signatures are on the petition. please find the link below for it and please sign!!!

http://www.petitiono...-petrol-tax/637


Rich