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#31 sonikk4

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Posted 10 March 2011 - 08:32 PM

We all suffer on the odd occasion from incorrect spelling or using some other form of writing but as an aircraft engineer part of gaining our Licence qualification is being able to use the Queens English correctly as you may be explaining a serious defect by writing which another engineer will have to rectify.

No text speak, Urdu or any other type of language, peoples lives may depend on it. Now if everybody was to take that approach no matter what then we the older generation would not moan at the youth of today.

I constantly berate my 18 year old son for his grammar and spelling and he is an A level student. It really is not difficult, yes some people do have issues like Dyslexia but we have technology at our finger tips here with spell checkers etc which should cut out the need for poor spelling.

I use Google a lot for certain words to ensure what i am typing is correct and used in the right context. Its very easy to have another window open on the PC with this available.

At work i have to leave a written handover as well as a verbal handover so yet again spelling and grammar is everything. Text speak should be left firmly on the mobile phone, that's where it belongs. Yes we have sections on the forum that are just for chat but when it's the technical sections then clear and precise spelling and grammar is everything.

We are all supposed to have had some form of education and as written and spoken English is a major part of the curriculum then why is it slowly degenerating??

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Posted 10 March 2011 - 08:39 PM

We are all supposed to have had some form of education and as written and spoken English is a major part of the curriculum then why is it slowly degenerating??

Poor parenting and poor teaching.

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Posted 10 March 2011 - 08:43 PM

I as not noticed dat people on ere talk like dis...

I find ppls chat on ere is pretty gud...

is it because mayB u is not wit de world?

:)

p.e. I is 24 and I dnt speak like dat... does I?


god, that must off taken you ages :cry:
i don't write like that and im 18,
but sometimes i don't look at my writing until after i sent it :S ^_^

#34 sonikk4

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Posted 10 March 2011 - 08:46 PM

We are all supposed to have had some form of education and as written and spoken English is a major part of the curriculum then why is it slowly degenerating??

Poor parenting and poor teaching.


The teaching part i agree with and to some extent the parenting side. I taught my son his ABC's and times table and used to check his homework for mistakes and guided him in using the correct spelling grammar etc. However when i am told by him that today's exam's are concentrating predominately on the content and not the spelling side then that is where it is failing.

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Posted 10 March 2011 - 08:48 PM

As long as it can be read and understood whats the problem? I dont use text speak but I cant spell verry well.
But people understand me and can read what I type.

I personly hate people who think because I can't spell that i am lazy, but I read throught it and it looks fine to me so shouldent matter. Its not like we are writeing an english essay on here.

'Awaites complaints of spelling punctuation and grammer/ list of miss spelt words' From the loosers on here who pick fault rather than adding valued post to the forum.

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Posted 10 March 2011 - 08:48 PM

one day all books will be wrote in 'text speech' because texting is the only reading people ever do now a days, (this is including me , im only 17)
but yeah i tend to type normally theres a few words i dont but thats because im slightly dislexic , but yeah who cares how people spell?

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Posted 10 March 2011 - 08:52 PM

'Awaites complaints of spelling punctuation and grammer/ list of miss spelt words' From the loosers on here who pick fault rather than adding valued post to the forum.

And there's the problem. Why call people losers? Very grown up.

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Posted 10 March 2011 - 08:59 PM

This is the problem, it is lost on the 15-19odds.

My spelling has always been poor, so as with other things I struggle with in life, I try my hardest to improve.

It is mostly about pride and the attitude of youth....take madjoe for example, spoiling for a fight so mispells on purpose, where/what is the need?

Spelling is important; In my profession if reports and logs are incorrect then you get extra duties, and this continues, extra duties are usually on weekends.

Spelling is a basic, taught from young, I am currently teaching my 4 year old how to read, write and spell, and I am here to say she is better than some of the "GCSE/A Level" students on here!

I know a few dyslexics, and it is used as such an excuse these days; not saying you specifically callum, but it is a get out more recently than ever before.

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Posted 10 March 2011 - 09:14 PM

This is the problem, it is lost on the 15-19odds.

My spelling has always been poor, so as with other things I struggle with in life, I try my hardest to improve.

It is mostly about pride and the attitude of youth....take madjoe for example, spoiling for a fight so mispells on purpose, where/what is the need?

Spelling is important; In my profession if reports and logs are incorrect then you get extra duties, and this continues, extra duties are usually on weekends.

Spelling is a basic, taught from young, I am currently teaching my 4 year old how to read, write and spell, and I am here to say she is better than some of the "GCSE/A Level" students on here!

I know a few dyslexics, and it is used as such an excuse these days; not saying you specifically callum, but it is a get out more recently than ever before.



How am I spoiling for a fight haha you people make me laugth, To be honist (to be honest- just for you) I dont think its posible to fight over the net, however you can argue and I beleave by posting this topic you were out for an argument.

I dident deliberatly miss spell anything before you assume I do, I just struggle im dislexic however I hate having to state this so I don't.

I have been diagnosed by veriouse specialists and have paper work to prove this.

The reason I up set over it is because lots of people on this forum judge people by there strength of spelling, I have had lots of problems with this on here recently.

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Posted 10 March 2011 - 09:21 PM

I don't want to single out any one single group, but there one gets the impression that the parents of 'benefit class' types don't have any standards, and are only too ready to drop their H's, and drive untaxed cars with no seat belts, and let their numerous iliterate and illegitamate offspring use foul language, and generally behave in such a manner that the rest of the population find both offensive and intimidating. And these people really can't spell.

But I think that in the case of the fashionably young TMF massive, it's probabally just a combination of youthful enthusiasm, laziness, and stupidity. On the reverse side I know that some 5 % of the population have undiagnosed Dyslexia, along with the 10% who are diagnosed. http://www.dyslexia-adults.com/ but these people try harder to get it right.

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Posted 10 March 2011 - 09:26 PM

The reason I up set over it is because lots of people on this forum judge people by there strength of spelling, I have had lots of problems with this on here recently.

But you judged those who believe that spelling is important as losers. How do you square that? Even if you are dyslexic, it doesn't mean you have to think correct spelling isn't important for those that aren't, does it? Surely you can see Bobby's point. He said it is important in the job he does, therefore those that can't convey their meaning correctly cannot do that job satisfactorily.

edit: spelling :)

Edited by MiniLuke, 10 March 2011 - 09:30 PM.


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Posted 10 March 2011 - 09:33 PM

We are all supposed to have had some form of education and as written and spoken English is a major part of the curriculum then why is it slowly degenerating??

Poor parenting and poor teaching.


Somewhat of a generalisation, wouldn't you say?

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Posted 10 March 2011 - 09:34 PM

We are all supposed to have had some form of education and as written and spoken English is a major part of the curriculum then why is it slowly degenerating??

Poor parenting and poor teaching.


Somewhat of a generalisation, wouldn't you say?

No.

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Posted 10 March 2011 - 09:40 PM

The reason I up set over it is because lots of people on this forum judge people by there strength of spelling, I have had lots of problems with this on here recently.

But you judged those who believe that spelling is important as losers. How do you square that? Even if you are dyslexic, it doesn't mean you have to think correct spelling isn't important for those that aren't, does it? Surely you can see Bobby's point. He said it is important in the job he does, therefore those that can't convey their meaning correctly cannot do that job satisfactorily.

edit: spelling :thumbsup:


Fair enougth if your job depends on it being perfect, but that still does not mean because my job doesnt realy depend on it that I dont try. And that im lazy along with others like me who have problems with spelling. And its still important for me maby not so much as others.

I maby shouldent have called the people who diliberatly correct spelling and complain about it to make people feel bad 'loosers'. These people who get kicks out of picking faults with everything. I appologise for calling them... However would have called them worse things as they realy get on my nerves but your not alowed to express your self through the use of words on the internet.

Edited by me madjoe 90, 10 March 2011 - 09:41 PM.


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Posted 10 March 2011 - 10:06 PM

one day all books will be wrote in 'text speech'


Reminiscent of the Orwellian "Newspeak".




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