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[RayBoogs]

I'm not to bothered about spelling as such or text speak, as long as it sort of resembles the word its ok, the thing that really gets me is when you get a thread that is started and its just a massive paragraph rammed together with no grammar or punctuation, so you have no idea what is going on, and to be honest i rarely read them as I don't want to spend an age deciphering them.

rant over

[ibrooks]

The reason I up set over it is because lots of people on this forum judge people by there strength of spelling, I have had lots of problems with this on here recently.

But you judged those who believe that spelling is important as losers. How do you square that? Even if you are dyslexic, it doesn't mean you have to think correct spelling isn't important for those that aren't, does it? Surely you can see Bobby's point. He said it is important in the job he does, therefore those that can't convey their meaning correctly cannot do that job satisfactorily.

edit: spelling

Fair enougth if your job depends on it being perfect, but that still does not mean because my job doesnt realy depend on it that I dont try. And that im lazy along with others like me who have problems with spelling. And its still important for me maby not so much as others.

I maby shouldent have called the people who diliberatly correct spelling and complain about it to make people feel bad 'loosers'. These people who get kicks out of picking faults with everything. I appologise for calling them... However would have called them worse things as they realy get on my nerves but your not alowed to express your self through the use of words on the internet.

I think part of the problem was your percieved attitude which seemed to be "I'm officially dyslexic so I don't have to bother" - whether that's what you intended or your real feeling or not, that's how it came across. I'm another one that would try all the harder because of it - I'm physically disabled but refused to take a disabled driving test or try for a motability car because I don't need it. I've had the problem from birth so I have learnt to live with it and do things despite it (people that have known me for years sometimes take it for odd mannerisms as they don't realise that my body just won't do certain things as I've never mentioned it one way or another). I also know a few dyslexic people and they tend to have the same sort of attitude in that they are just that much more determined to get it right.

That said your posts aren't the sort of thing that tends to annoy me as you do seem to put a bit of effort in - it's the clowns that revert as people have said to text speak or drop entire words that I can't abide and I tend to just ignore their posts and skip to the next one.

Ebay sometimes frightens me when I see some of the terrible mis-use of words, mis-spelling and all sorts of other rubbish that people will happily put on public view. It really worries me that some of these people are allowed to manage their own finances - when the words they have typed are the only thing you've got to go off the impression of the person on the other end of the keyboard isn't exactly great. I'd be ashamed to be associated with some of those descriptions.

Iain

[Bobby9779]

It is my understanding that dyslexia (which by the way almost all dyslexics can spell correctly) is the inability to put the letters down in the correct order as the brain can read them but confuses them, this usually results in words that have the correct letters but not in te right order.

What Joe has wrote is a load of rubbish; You corrected your own spelling as you wrote it. So it is not a case of not being able to. But a case of not wanting to, and that is being ignorant, stupid and wilfully dense. End of.

[1995 MK2 IOM]

I as not noticed dat people on ere talk like dis...

I find ppls chat on ere is pretty gud...

is it because mayB u is not wit de world?



p.e. I is 24 and I dnt speak like dat... does I?

god, that must off taken you ages
i don't write like that and im 18,
but sometimes i don't look at my writing until after i sent it :S

U c, dat is D problM, wen I is sndin a mSedge I mite nt rEd it til it as bEn snt...

nd at dat tym it is 2 lAt to do nefink abowt it.

it is a bit lIk de pEple frm udder cuntries try to spEky de english

I do fink dat de speL cheKa on ere is priT gud doh!

would it be posibull 4 sum1 2 transl8 dis 4 dose dat dnt no what i is sAin


hehe

I actually quite like writing like that... it takes a bit longer to think about what to say... but it makes an interesting read out of the most boring bit of writing!

J

[minidream94]

You see that is the problem, when i am sending a message i might not read it until it has been sent,

And at that time it is too late to do anything about it.

It is abit like the people from other countries who try to speak english.

I do think that a spell checker option is pretty good though.

Would it be possible for someone to translate this for me for the people who dont know what i am saying

Edited by minidream94, 10 March 2011 - 11:54 PM.

[Bobby9779]

I have heard this a couple of times now. Simple solution, once you have typed it, hit preview post and re-read it.

Re-reading is simple exam technique that all of you should know at the age of 15-19.

[mister bridger]

I went to a state Grammar school in the 70's where spelling, punctuation and,oh yes, grammar were considered important. My five kids all went to shools where these things were considered less important than allowing the childs uninterrupted creative flow. I know which side of the argument I stand on. Call me old fashioned!

[Juju]

I went to a state Grammar school in the 70's where spelling, punctuation and,oh yes, grammar were considered important. My five kids all went to shools where these things were considered less important than allowing the childs uninterrupted creative flow. I know which side of the argument I stand on. Call me old fashioned!

You're old fashioned.

But I agree with you.

I teach undergraduates & postgraduates. Students educated in Britain don't seem to have the language skills that those educated abroad possess. "Home" students tend to show poor sentence construction, grammar, spelling and written reasoning in comparison to their fellow students educated overseas, despite English being their first language. It is both alarming & shameful.
One of my final year students recently wrote the acronym "FUBAR" in an exam essay. When we brought them in for a bit of a chat (they are one of the highest scoring students) it became apparent that they thought it was appropriate use of language in a formal context. I was mortified. There is seriously something amiss in the UK education system.

Edited by Juju, 11 March 2011 - 09:34 AM.

[samperks]

Chill Winston! ita only be a bit o' Gramma der be no need to mek a mountain outta a mole'ill.

people here are so uptight they could sharpen a pencil with there anus!

[Bobby9779]

So you think that the first part of your response is easy to read and perfectly acceptable?

I think that it should be banned on here. I think that posts should be deleted if they look like they are written by a 4yr old chav.

Edited by Bobby9779, 11 March 2011 - 10:21 AM.

[me madjoe 90]

So you think that the first part of your response is easy to read and perfectly acceptable?

I think that it should be banned on here. I think that posts should be deleted if they look like they are written by a 4yr old chav.

Thats just steriotypeing a 4 year old 'chav' might be able to type better than you. Highly unlikely but you not alowed to say that.



'Please delete Bobby9779's post its derogertory'

[mini_mad69]

It annoys me when people get: Though and thought mixed up.

They don't even sound the same!!!

I also don't like it when people mix up: they, they're, there, and their. However they do sound the same, so I can let that go.
Apart from that, im a pretty poor typist and reading back I can find fault with most things I write.


And this is the only place where I put new sentances on new lines.

It's a bit weird, but all my posts are like it, I have no idea why I do it.



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[Chris_R]

Blimey, this has all got a bit heated! A significant part of my job role requires me to check contract schedules pre-signature for any errors or ambiguity, which is something I enjoy as I am proud of my ability to spot grammatical and contextual errors. Having said this you may think I'm on the side of those who are up in arms over spelling and grammar in posts, or the lack of it, but I'm not. This forum, and posts in it, should be for fun; the posts and topics in it are not formal submissions and don't need to be 100% accurate in order to get the point or question across.

To pick someone up because of their use of there, their, they're or to and too is really anal in my opinion. If you know they've used the wrong word then you know what the right word should be and therefore understand the context of their writing. To point that out on here is somewhat patronising and definitely unnecessary; if the writer has been through the education system and not got it yet then they're not going to now!

With regards to the text speak, I can't understand it myself so tend to skip over any posts written like that

[me madjoe 90]

Blimey, this has all got a bit heated! A significant part of my job role requires me to check contract schedules pre-signature for any errors or ambiguity, which is something I enjoy as I am proud of my ability to spot grammatical and contextual errors. Having said this you may think I'm on the side of those who are up in arms over spelling and grammar in posts, or the lack of it, but I'm not. This forum, and posts in it, should be for fun; the posts and topics in it are not formal submissions and don't need to be 100% accurate in order to get the point or question across.

To pick someone up because of their use of there, their, they're or to and too is really anal in my opinion. If you know they've used the wrong word then you know what the right word should be and therefore understand the context of their writing. To point that out on here is somewhat patronising and definitely unnecessary; if the writer has been through the education system and not got it yet then they're not going to now!

With regards to the text speak, I can't understand it myself so tend to skip over any posts written like that

Well said that man.

[paul_s]

With regards to the text speak, I can't understand it myself so tend to skip over any posts written like that

Personally I find I can understand it, but it's too much hassle so I don't bother and move on to another post. That may be a reflection on me of course

it makes reading that little more interesting as you dont need to read aload of blabbering that gets boring after a few seconds

It depends on the reader really - I find badly written text very hard to read and therefore boring, but equally a lot of people will have switched off already at my long post!

On the whole I thin ka decent level of literacy is important, if nothing else it helps people understand your point. Picking others up on spelling mistakes is a bit harsh maybe, however much it grates on you (and believe me it does!)
Just to fan the flames I'll leave you with an excerpt from the TMF Rules and Regulations

Post in English

When posting on the forums, please use English! Don't speak entirely in all-capitals, or so called 'TEXT' speak. If you're able to speak good English, use your abilities - computers provide you with a full keyboard, and there is no need to shorten words to letters (for example you = u, and your = ur) therefore please use full words.

The forum software (with 95% of browsers) includes a spell-check facility - please use it! Any words spelt incorrectly will be underlined in red. Excuses such as "I suffer from dyslexia" no longer apply due to the introduction of this software. The spell check button is the "ABC" one found when composing posts.

Continual use of capital letters or ‘TEXT’ speak will initially receive a written request by a Staff Member asking the member to refrain from using it. Further violations will then incur a warning."