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[MiniLuke]

To be fair the contributions made on the forum by MRA such as technical advice has been superb. Martin is very knowledgeable particularly in technical subjects. That I think is what no one can have any doubt about. That's all I'm going to say in the matter

Hold on! You are the one who started this thread and were basically baying for Martin's blood in a series of posts where you clearly have no real understanding (despite your "weeks of digging") of the situation, for example "It gets better...........the 2 main creditors in the liquidation is Martin himself (Director one), and someone else with a very similar name.". Seriously, why does this mean it gets better???

Also posts like "I'm well pleased I posted and the main contributions were by other people. Its good that we did this to protect lots of mini enthusiasts like poor Rick.SPI" I am really struggling to see what your intensions were and how have you protected anyone?

Now Martin has posted and you see that the vast majority of people do support him, you seem to be back pedalling at quite a pace.

[Artful Dodger]

how can i contact martin?? i need to contact him about a private selling, bad timing aswell, sent him moneys on sunday, company went into liquidation on monday.

If its a private sale what has it got to with MRA ?

sod all old chap i just needed some way of contacting him other than facebook because of a private enquiry:)

just reading through this thread, cant believe some people are actually saying what they are saying. he is trying his best to get peoples mini's finished to what he agreed when his company is going through probably THE worst thing that could happen to it.


and to put a lawsuit against the man, thats just harsh. i hope you realise what you are doing.

[Peskett]

I think these two quotes taken from the turbominis thread just indicated the type of person the original poster is!
There is no need for these type of comments and think the post created here on TMF was one of the ways of "screwing that f*uckface to the wall"

Hello Rick. I would like to help by screwing that MRA f*ckface to the wall, and i know just how to do it legally. But the reason I am here is because he totally ******* my 850 engine (hardly a turbo). He refused to issue me a refund.
Removed, please do via PM, good luck
John

I first joined this forum as I heard what happenned it Rick's engine, and I am now pleased I have joined. Wouldnt these forums be a much better place without the f*ckings bas*tard companies trying to rip us off. Its my duty to come here and help people like Rick. I will now take the next steps to screw that MRA f*ckwit to the wall so much he wont now whats hot him. All legal of course. I will PM for any finer details.

[Peskett]

mk=john,
Can we ask how he ruined your 850?

I agree entirely with Peskett, and I can't believe what gets posted on turbo minis. I am glad I only post on TMF, the family forum

Don't get me wrong, I like turbo minis. Theres a hell of a lot of knowledge on there and I also like the banter I Just don't agree with mk=john Starting a topic that is basicly out to ruin somebodies life.
Whats happend between rick.spi and mra is between them two but do you really think MRA would put his company into administartion just to get out of paying? I think not.
Theres two sides to every story it's just only one side has been heard this time.

[MiniLuke]

http://morrisminorow.../sutra56648.php

Nice.... Just what are people warning of?

[charliedurrant]

http://morrisminorow.../sutra56648.php

Nice.... Just what are people warning of?

Am I believing my eyes, is that bmc posting?

[Kam]

Well the first post has done its job, to paint a picture the way it wants, however after reading through I think people can see where they stand, like so:

Cut the man some slack. Everything that I have so far seen or read from MRA was solid work and excellent advice. And I think it's safe to assume that this whole situation did not develop because his goal was to rip the mini community off (there are enough of those on ebay). I hope they will recover from this and get back on their feet asap

Couldn't of said it better myself

Another vote of confidence here for Martin as usual, nothings changed, good luck fella

[wolfie]

Personally i have never had any dealings with Martin or his company and have been happy with that situation after seeing the email threats he made to a well respected member of the mini community so before anyone pipes up with "Martins a really nice guy" i have my own and very clear opinion of him and how he treats not just people but other fledgling buisnesses.

Makes me laugh how people keep going on about "bashing the drum" or "stoking the fire" and how the mini community is loosing someone who contributes to the community, what about the people that have lost there hard earned money? what about the stress of the people ripped off by Martin, no one goes though the stress and hassle of court without a good reason and the people on here protecting Martin clearly have other agenders or really dont give a damn about others.

With regards to the posts saying that threads like this have no place on forums well thats plain wrong! by people airing there views here stating the facts then no one can make that imortant informed choice, if you see this thread then give Martin money and you dont see your goods then there is no-one else to blame.

The only way i see Martin being able to trade again is if he sorts this mess out and repays what he owes as this is almost a repeat of another engine builders story that so many were caught out by, there were quite a few there protecting him when he first got in trouble but we all know what everyone thinks now.

Edited by wolfie, 20 November 2011 - 12:10 PM.

[Frisco]

I realy do hope MRA gets things back together and ends up with both a business that functions again and sorts out all the people were caught in the middle of this.
The thruth is though that whatever the OPs motive for starting the thread I think most people would react in a fairly similar way if they had lost money.

[Shifty]

As i've already said I welcome facts to be aired here, to date there has only been one disgruntled customer who has done so. He contacted us and we(tmf) are helping to work through the problems with him.

Most of the other information in this thread is just conjecture and personal opinions.

To date out of the 1000's of customers MRA has served there are only 3 complaints(that I know of), by most standards thats pretty good(in my opinion anyway).

If I in anyway thought that was going to be a repeat of the smart performance/morspeed debacle then I wouldn't be wasting my time in trying to help sort things out.

I truly believe that Martin is doing his best in this very difficult time and as such am more than willing to help in anyway I can.

Like I said before, if anyone has any queries/questions/issues or just needs reassurance then either post up here or drop me a PM.

[jenbachertech]

I've just had a quick chat with Martin, mentioning one or two issues that have arisen within this thread.

These are now being dealt with.

If any of you have need to contact Martin over the next couple of weeks please use either TMF procedure via Shifty, or PM me, and I will contact Martin on your behalf - part of the problems experienced with MRA was down to people phoning regarding a small query, then chatting for half an hour or more - this then takes Martin away from more productive work - you cant charge for advice given in good faith, and there are not enough hours in the day. I very much doubt any of you start work at 7am, and are still working at 4am the following day - Martin has been doing this to try to catch up!

I am doing this as help for a friend, so please remain courteous, and factual, I have no desire to act as arbitrator in disputes - there are official lines to follow for that sort of stuff.

Hoping I can help you all and help Martin to do the same

[AndyMiniMad.]

I had no idea this was all going on and phoned Martin on Friday looking for advice on a technical issue, He was, as always happy to help. I wish him all the best in this difficult time and look forward to doing business with him again in the future..Good luck Martin!!

Some people on here should be ashamed of themselves...its not easy trying to run your own company in these challenging times.

[wolfie]

As i've already said I welcome facts to be aired here, to date there has only been one disgruntled customer who has done so. He contacted us and we(tmf) are helping to work through the problems with him.

Now i applude the attempt at mediation shifty however after having some recent corrispondance with a so called staff member i would not want that hippacritical idiot dealing with anything as sensitive as issues like this and you would have to admit that staff members have had a poor track record when trying to defuse or mediate a thread problem in the past, also its actually nothing to to with the staff on TMF unless they have been affected themselves so there is a high chance if there being more than 3 digruntled customers as theres a big a series world outside of TMF.

With regards to the posts saying that threads like this have no place on forums well thats plain wrong! by people airing there views here stating the facts then no one can make that imortant informed choice, if you see this thread then give Martin money and you dont see your goods then there is no-one else to blame.

I do see what you mean but it is very easy to broadcast false information via forums and ALSO say things that you would not say to someone's face. This is hence why Shifty has mentioned to stick to the facts.

The Internet can be good and bad at the same time.

Charlie

I dont see it as in my opinion its hard to broadcast false info on mini forums in general in order to hurt a buisiness, usually these sort of complaints and problems have substance as the mini community and the services it is catered for is a small one.
If complaints like this had arisen on a ford forum with the many services provided and the higher chance of personal problems rather than buisiness related problems being the route cause of the post i would agree with you, for example i made no attempt to hide that i dont like Martin or the way he operates however i would never dream of starting a thread slandering him saying he had ripped me off or exaggerating the issue to hurt his buisiness i dont believe that sort of thing is in the mini community and i think that anyone lying or exaggerating a problem within the mini community would get cought out easily.

As i said a good thread with balanced factual posts with give people the chance to make an informed choice as to using Martin or any company he is associated with.

[minidaves]

Just to add alittle bit to this, with customers and reputaion

1 customers seem to think that you can speak with them all day, this means no work being done and then people wonder why things dont get done
2 reputaion 1 person on a list of forums can distroy it, simple as because the internet is a dangerous tool.

all i have to say really and hope you get sorted

dave

[Shifty]

Wolfie, I'm not sure I really like what you're saying to be honest. In this instance your opinion of TMF staff members has no bearing on this. Unlike you I have a great respect for Martin and the way he's handling this very difficult situation.

Equally I want the best for our members as well.

If you want to get any comments about the way i'm trying to handle this situation out, please just say so.

If you know of any more people than the 3 complainants then let me know.

I also see the turbo-minis thread has been closed because it was going no-where, I'm not prepared to let that happen here.