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[GTIAlex06]

This has been a funny read :)

Next week "Breathing, dont see what all the fuss is about" ;)

[Daviewonder]

I've been paying more attention to the Beatles since you started this thread as they play a lot of their songs on Jack FM.

I've changed my opinion from "Crap" to "Meh"

[firefox]

Sorry if I offended anyone but that's my opinion. And the only thing Ringo's playing hads was bad timing

read this bud and dont take it the wrong way this is educational you never know we may turn you into liking them ha ha ha

Although Ringo reportedly admits his musical knowledge beyond percussion is limited, he composed some songs on piano, including "Don't Pass Me By" (he plays electric piano on this recording) and "Octopus's Garden". Ringo claimed to have contributed the famous line "Father McKenzie, wiping the dirt from his hands as he walks from the grave" to "Eleanor Rigby", which was ostensibly written by McCartney. A line confirmed as his is, "Look at him working, darning his socks in the night when there's nobody there." Ringo was also responsible for a number of song titles, inspired by his malapropisms of homespun Liverpudlian sayings. Some notables include "A Hard Day's Night", "Eight Days a Week" and "Tomorrow Never Knows". Critical appreciation of his steady, supportive drumming has increased through the decades. He is said to have recorded the drums on many Beatles' recordings in a single take.


Given his widely acknowledged expertise and inventiveness as a songwriter, John was less proficient playing rhythmic instruments such as drums or bass. For example, during the song "Another Girl" in the movie Help! he appears to play the drums uneasily and out of rhythm (the Beatles all switch their instruments during this clip). John played piano on "I Am The Walrus" and bass on "Back in the USSR", "Let It Be" and "The Long and Winding Road" in which, if one listens closely, a few technical mistakes can be heard (these were fixed decades later on McCartney's stripped down, "un-Spectored" version Let it Be... Naked). The other Beatles admitted to teasing John about his timekeeping. When the remaining Beatles reunited in the mid 90s to record some of John's unreleased demo tracks, producer Jeff Lynne used studio technology to compensate for John's flexible sense of tempo (ironically, since his wonted instrumental role in the Beatles is usually characterized as rhythm guitar).

The wording and style of this particular post reminded me of christian bales discussing " huey lewis and the news " in american physcho

Very good mod ha bloody ha i did copy and paste it to prove a point that ringo was a good drummur one of the best take a look into drummer world

[Cooperman]

Maybe a parallel thread to this could be; The Mini - What's all the fuss about?
As a car it's about the same age as the Beatles as a group. It is now not particularly good in terms of what a car is for.
Like the Beatles it's more about how it influenced the world and how that influence continues to this day.
Ignore the fact that those of us on here are Mini enthusiasts, consider how an average car owner who was not there to own one in the 60's would view if compared to modern cars like the Fiesta, VW Polo, Corsa, etc, all current small cars.
Now, that seems to be how certain posters on here are considering the Beatles.
You just have to look at the bigger picture and not just criticise because they don't fit your concept of how things are now.

[joshspragg]

never been too fussed. and i have a mate who will constantly remind me of how amazing and great they are. even my music tech teacher said the only reason she respects them is because of what they did to revolutionise the way recording was done.

i've never understood the whole fuss of bands being seen as icons. i really like certain bands but i wouldnt cry if they split up.

[Black.Ghost]

Opinions are fine but slating each other's opinions is pointless.

As for the Beatles, personally I like them - not all of their stuff but a lot of it. They are a great band. I would love to have just got a Mk1 Cooper S and put the latest album on! Mega.

I would much rather be listening to the Beatles than modern auto tuned crap. Personally I don't like urban hip hop r n b stuff. And most, not all, modern pop is pish as well. But at the end of the day, if everyone liked the same it would be really boring.

[JustSteve]

Since this thread started, I've listened to more of the beatles than ever before!

[firefox]

Since this thread started, I've listened to more of the beatles than ever before!

Enjoy bud

Edited by firefox, 24 July 2012 - 05:18 PM.

[minibarnerz]

The thing about the Beatles is that they were right or there time! Remember, this country was a completely different (better, cough) place then! Free love, drugs... The music fitted the times!
Same as the spice girls fitted the 90's!

Either one of those groups, if they came out now they probably never be signed let alone successful! To "get" the music, you have to fist "get" the era they came from...

They are all legends of their times, hugely successful, and certainly should be respected!

Edited by minibarnerz, 24 July 2012 - 05:35 PM.

[minimarco]

Either one of those groups, if they came out now they probably never be signed let alone successful!

Beethoven would be homeless if he was alive today.

And deaf.

Homeless and deaf.

Edited by minimarco, 24 July 2012 - 05:59 PM.

[firefox]

Either one of those groups, if they came out now they probably never be signed let alone successful!

Beethoven would be homeless if he was alive today.

And deaf.

Homeless and deaf.

I dont think so they would have fixed his lugs Ludwig get it ha ha ha ok back in the box

Edited by firefox, 24 July 2012 - 06:29 PM.

[CMXCVIII]

. They were not just a 'pop-group', in the way that the Monkees or the Beach Boys were, they were writers and composers, they were basic innovators, they led a modern music revolution. Others just followed.

The Beach Boys?!? Come orf it! Brian Wilson's work - on, say, Pet Sounds - knocks all of Lennon and McCartney's songwriting into a cocked hat and innovated the production and the engineering and knocked all of Sir George Martin's studio engineering into the same cocked hat! And he could sing harmonies!

THREAD REVIVAL!!


I remembered this because I saw the Beach Boys on Thursday night at the Royal Albert Hall


You know how McCartney has been a bit embarrassing this summer? Well The Beach Boys weren't! In their 70s, they were still absolutely world class! It was one of the really best gigs of my 40+ years going to 'em!

The band of six old men [plus their younger, but still middle-aged backing musicians] can all still sing in tune and they can all still harmonise really well, they can still cut it live, and they belted out a 3 1/2 hour set of more than 50 songs – most of which they wrote and all of which most people here would know to sing along with!

There was some un-usual stuff too but they went through a pretty complete "Beach Boys Show' retrospective for undoubtedly the oldest average aged audience I've ever been part of!

Amazing - and a bit sad. There's every chance that after last night's Wembley gig, Mike Love and Brian Wilson and Al Jardine will never lead their band again but when you can look back over their 50 years together, you can easily realise just how important they always have been!

[Mini Cheddars]

The Beatles suck. They never had a as many Twitter followers as Justin Bieber! That's proof right there!

[Bagpuss127]

Maybe a parallel thread to this could be; The Mini - What's all the fuss about?
As a car it's about the same age as the Beatles as a group. It is now not particularly good in terms of what a car is for.
Like the Beatles it's more about how it influenced the world and how that influence continues to this day.
Ignore the fact that those of us on here are Mini enthusiasts, consider how an average car owner who was not there to own one in the 60's would view if compared to modern cars like the Fiesta, VW Polo, Corsa, etc, all current small cars.
Now, that seems to be how certain posters on here are considering the Beatles.
You just have to look at the bigger picture and not just criticise because they don't fit your concept of how things are now.

Cooperman, your point about the Mini not being a particularly good car but influential certainly hit a chord with me.
Ever since I saw the film Bullitt as a kid I always wanted a Ford Mustang, fast forward 30 odd years and I now have one.
Granted it's not the fastback that I dreamed about but it's the nearest I'll ever be able to afford.
It is without doubt one of the worst cars I've ever driven, it's loud, smelly, noisy, very vague in the steering department and totally and utterly unuseable in the wet.
BUT, it is a complete icon, it was mass produced with lousy quality control but it was one of the 1st cars with the ability to be tailored to the customers likes.
Mine is a Mach 1 in all but name, the original purchaser ordered it with the biggest 351 cubic inch engine, manual transmission, power steering and servo assisted brakes with front discs, but it is still really a base model coupe.
Although it is a terrible car to drive, the fun factor is off the scale, most people when they hear the rumble of the V8 through the flowmaster exhausts turn and look, I don't think I've ever seen anyone not smile.
A lot of people won't "get" an American pony car, but that doesn't stop them from appreciating it.
Same with music (as has already been said), I don't "get" opera or jazz, but I know there is a hell of a lot of talent present in the musicians of these genres.
My own musical tastes span from heavy rock (Rammstein, AC DC, Thin Lizzy) to Kate Bush, Kim Wilde and Bonnie Tyler.
We're all different individuals with different like/dislikes, cars wise, BMW's and Audis leave me cold, (although I appreciate the engineering), I'd never have either but tastes change as life goes on.
If someone had said to me 10 years I'd be driving a Citroen, I would have peed myself laughing, I've now had 2 Citroen C-Crossers and think they're fantastic !
Lets all live and let live.................................................
Phew, getting all emotinal now, want to go out and drive my Mini and Mustang back to back and laugh my bits off while doing it
Chalk and cheese spring to mind.......................................

[sledgehammer]

Had a Cobra 302 Mach1 - dry road straight road - awesome - wet road or any - corner suicide - was like riding a bull - with no reins

at the same time as I had a 850 convertible - lovely & cute - both made me smile

McCartney is an embarrassment now - but was good in the day - 40 years ago