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[mini93]

One thing people always neglect to think about. They say such and such band/car/anything is revolutionary. Sure it may well be the 1st of its type at the time, but often its only a matter of time till something else comes along, someone else developes the music/car/product differently and they are instead of thought of being revolutional.
for example the mini, 1st comercial FWD, but it would have happened if it wasnt deveolped for the mini, space restrictions would have meant it had to sooner or later.

music wise, the beetles might have been best selling/revolutional... what ever (i dont follow them as i already stated) but to say they single handedly inspired however many later musicians is heavy handed. music deveolps all the time. Some people are born with it, born to play music and would have taken insperation where ever it would have come from (that is unless their parents got frisky because of some beatles songs)

[MiniElliott]

Sorry if I offended anyone but that's my opinion. And the only thing Ringo's playing hads was bad timing

read this bud and dont take it the wrong way this is educational you never know we may turn you into liking them ha ha ha

I can say that I do have a couple of friends that absolutly love the Beatles. Due to this I listened to them to try and like them. I mean I really tried to like them. But I just carn't. Theres something about all the songs that I just dont like.

[firefox]

There is always hope , i think you need to have lived through it, to be honest i dont like all their songs but there are some, well a lot of gems
same with all the groups, i think anybody that follows a singer, pop group ect dosent like all they produce

Edited by firefox, 20 July 2012 - 05:30 PM.

[Boycie]

Big Beatles fan here. I wasn't born until the 70s but have loved the music since I can remember. How anyone can say they don't like something such as Hey Jude is beyond me.. but differing opinions are what makes the world go 'round and I'd never want to publicly criticise another's personal tastes.

[Daviewonder]

Whenever I hear people say the beatles are talentless and overrated all I hear is auto tuned top 40 fanatic who is too shallow minded to accept any other genre of music, you disgust me

Rapists disgust me
Paedophiles disgust me
People who mug 90 year olds and leave them for dead disgust me.

People who don't accept other music genres, really?

[minimarco]

One thing people always neglect to think about. They say such and such band/car/anything is revolutionary. Sure it may well be the 1st of its type at the time, but often its only a matter of time till something else comes along, someone else developes the music/car/product differently and they are instead of thought of being revolutional.
for example the mini, 1st comercial FWD, but it would have happened if it wasnt deveolped for the mini, space restrictions would have meant it had to sooner or later.

music wise, the beetles might have been best selling/revolutional... what ever (i dont follow them as i already stated) but to say they single handedly inspired however many later musicians is heavy handed. music deveolps all the time. Some people are born with it, born to play music and would have taken insperation where ever it would have come from (that is unless their parents got frisky because of some beatles songs)

That's like saying, why celebrate a winner, when the second place would've won anyway if the winner didn't win. But the winner did win. The mini existed, it was revolutionary, and The Beatles happened, they inspired. That actually happened.

That's like saying, if you weren't born. Your parents would've had another child anyway. Why do you bother having an opinion? someone else would've had it anyway. The world would never evolve if everybody sat around waiting for things to happen, and not celebrate revolutionaries when they appear, because who would bother.

Inventions however brilliant does not mean a thing if it's not recognized, so it's our duty to go out and buy some records.

[mini93]

Thats not what im saying at all, its happened, may aswell recognise it for what it is... but for those in here getting so angry about it, actualy such little point. we should all be cooperating to reduce the amount of auto-tuned drivvle thats being released! such a backwards step for music!

[Jet Black Jamie]

I would like to make it clear that having lived through it makes absolutely no difference to how much you can enjoy it. I am 15 and I absolutely love The Beatles. I have a friend, who is 2 years younger than me, who is the biggest Beatles fan I know. I have to agree that, in my opinion, the rubbish auto-tuned music created nowadays needs to be sorted out. When looking at my music library probably less than 10% of the music was actually created while I've been alive. Firstly, can people stop taking a disliking to The Beatles so personally. Although, personally, I do not understand how there is not even one Beatles song you like but I guess life wouldn't be the way it is if everyone was the same. I think it was 'MiniElliott' who said they like Bon Jovi, Journey etc. and I thoroughly enjoy their music as well. Also, just because the revolution would have probably happened anyway doesn't mean The Beatles shouldn't be celebrated by many who love them. Also, I don't think anyone has said that The Beatles have single-handedly inspired many artists, as that would be absurd. However, they have inspired a lot of artists and definitely changed the face of music. Queen for one, especially Freddie Mercury, were very much inspired by The Beatles, even writing a song dedicated to John Lennon after his death. I must say it is interesting to see other views but could we all be more civil and respectful about the way we treat people. EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OPINION!

Edited by Jet Black Jamie, 20 July 2012 - 07:20 PM.

[sledgehammer]

We are all different ...

can anyone on here honestly say they don't like any music ?

[firefox]

some nights with with a bottle of bacardi and a gallon of coke i sit down on the floor and get all my 45's and lp's out all 60's 70's and 80's what a night,i can relate every one to moments in my life, that's all i have now is memories, not very often now my deck is broken, ha ha ha

[Daviewonder]

Most of the songs that I really like have strong memories attatched. Maybe thats why I'm not keen on certain music as I've not listened to it enough to relate to moments in my life?

[surfblue63]

. They were not just a 'pop-group', in the way that the Monkees or the Beach Boys were, they were writers and composers, they were basic innovators, they led a modern music revolution. Others just followed.

I would contend you've chosen two wrong rivals there! Was it deliberate?

Of course The Monkees were a manufactured pop group. They were carefully manufactures to compete with the Beatles' marketing success but they did contain [even though they didn't use] a talented songwriter called Mike Nesmith.

His later stuff with The First National Band has given me more enjoyment than anything the Beatles recorded

The Beach Boys?!? Come orf it! Brian Wilson's work - on, say, Pet Sounds - knocks all of Lennon and McCartney's songwriting into a cocked hat and innovated the production and the engineering and knocked all of Sir George Martin's studio engineering into the same cocked hat! And he could sing harmonies!

Whenever I hear people say the beatles are talentless and overrated all I hear is auto tuned top 40 fanatic who is too shallow minded to accept any other genre of music, you disgust me

If it helps, I couldn't tell you what has been in the top 40 for about the last 40 years, but if you re-tune your disgust to listening to other contemporary music from the Beatles' era you might find they weren't the most original nor the best, in spite of what their marketeers and PR people might tell you!

I couldn't have put it better myself.

[surfblue63]

for example the mini, 1st comercial FWD, but it would have happened if it wasnt deveolped for the mini, space restrictions would have meant it had to sooner or later.

I think Andre Citroen might differ with you on the Mini being the first FWD. The Citroen Taction Avant (means Front Wheel Drive) was released in 1934. It was also a monocoque chassis/body. Then there's the 2CV which appeared in 1947.
Also in 1931 DKW (part of Auto Union) built the F1, which had FWD with a transverse mounted engine.

[charie t]

What's all these folks going into the closet? Are they intending to come out? Or keep it a secret....

[the.stroker]

Sorry if I offended anyone but that's my opinion. And the only thing Ringo's playing hads was bad timing

read this bud and dont take it the wrong way this is educational you never know we may turn you into liking them ha ha ha

Although Ringo reportedly admits his musical knowledge beyond percussion is limited, he composed some songs on piano, including "Don't Pass Me By" (he plays electric piano on this recording) and "Octopus's Garden". Ringo claimed to have contributed the famous line "Father McKenzie, wiping the dirt from his hands as he walks from the grave" to "Eleanor Rigby", which was ostensibly written by McCartney. A line confirmed as his is, "Look at him working, darning his socks in the night when there's nobody there." Ringo was also responsible for a number of song titles, inspired by his malapropisms of homespun Liverpudlian sayings. Some notables include "A Hard Day's Night", "Eight Days a Week" and "Tomorrow Never Knows". Critical appreciation of his steady, supportive drumming has increased through the decades. He is said to have recorded the drums on many Beatles' recordings in a single take.


Given his widely acknowledged expertise and inventiveness as a songwriter, John was less proficient playing rhythmic instruments such as drums or bass. For example, during the song "Another Girl" in the movie Help! he appears to play the drums uneasily and out of rhythm (the Beatles all switch their instruments during this clip). John played piano on "I Am The Walrus" and bass on "Back in the USSR", "Let It Be" and "The Long and Winding Road" in which, if one listens closely, a few technical mistakes can be heard (these were fixed decades later on McCartney's stripped down, "un-Spectored" version Let it Be... Naked). The other Beatles admitted to teasing John about his timekeeping. When the remaining Beatles reunited in the mid 90s to record some of John's unreleased demo tracks, producer Jeff Lynne used studio technology to compensate for John's flexible sense of tempo (ironically, since his wonted instrumental role in the Beatles is usually characterized as rhythm guitar).

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