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#16 Shifty

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 02:35 PM

Its up to you, a gasket and oil change is easier than an engine swap!!

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 02:40 PM


Its up to you, a gasket and oil change is easier than an engine swap!!

Got to be worth doing this, even if you use £15 halfords classic rather than millers

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 02:41 PM


Its up to you, a gasket and oil change is easier than an engine swap!!

Got to be worth doing this, even if you use £15 halfords classic rather than millers


wilkos 20/50 is even cheaper!!

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 02:43 PM




Its up to you, a gasket and oil change is easier than an engine swap!!

Got to be worth doing this, even if you use £15 halfords classic rather than millers


wilkos 20/50 is even cheaper!!

I didn't dare post that - the 'which oil' PC brigade will be down on you like a ton of bricks! I use comma sonic and change very regularly, great deal when bought in bulk.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 02:55 PM

Depends how far and how little oil.

The assumption that the engine will indefinitely need a rebuild is a bit stupid and I'd honestly expect better from some people to assume that. Drain the oil and examine it, re-fill and change the HG. To check the head gasket do a pressure test and also complete a compression check.

You don't have to go looking for a new engine before you've even checked this one.

I don't think some people understand that, it may have 'No' oil in it but there will still be oil in there, in the crank as well. Not a-lot but some.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 02:56 PM

I would go on a mechanical/car maintenance course first before anything, yes we are here to learn but.........................

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 03:03 PM

Not being condescending, but even some vegetable oil from a supermarket would have been better than none at all because they didn't have any 20/50

It's likely full rebuild time unless you are really pally with the man with a beard on a cloud!

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 03:29 PM

The assumption that the engine will indefinitely need a rebuild is a bit stupid

You don't have to go looking for a new engine before you've even checked this one.


there's only one way to check this one, and that's with a rebuild. although indicative, the oil wont tell you what state the crank journals are in- most likely to be damaged :(

I suggest topping it up with oil before removing it and seeing if you've got lucky, but be aware that a rebuild is on the cards and should be something you might want to consider for the near future. Anyway, lesson learnt I suppose :lol:

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 03:36 PM




Its up to you, a gasket and oil change is easier than an engine swap!!

Got to be worth doing this, even if you use £15 halfords classic rather than millers


wilkos 20/50 is even cheaper!!

I didn't dare post that - the 'which oil' PC brigade will be down on you like a ton of bricks! I use comma sonic and change very regularly, great deal when bought in bulk.


Comma sonic is GOLD compared to halfrauds ;)

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 03:39 PM






Its up to you, a gasket and oil change is easier than an engine swap!!

Got to be worth doing this, even if you use £15 halfords classic rather than millers


wilkos 20/50 is even cheaper!!

I didn't dare post that - the 'which oil' PC brigade will be down on you like a ton of bricks! I use comma sonic and change very regularly, great deal when bought in bulk.


Comma sonic is GOLD compared to halfrauds ;)

Agreed! I find in my MGB Gt daily driver, the halfords stuff runs at 5-8psi down on sonic after only 3-500 miles and was noticeably runnier when drained. Sadly comma have stopped doing the 25 and 125 litres drums of sonic in 20w50 so its a bit more expensive now than it used to be but still cheaper than halfords, even with a trade card.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 03:41 PM

there's only one way to check this one, and that's with a rebuild. although indicative, the oil wont tell you what state the crank journals are in- most likely to be damaged :(


What's in the oil is a good indicator, if there's a load of silvery metal flakes (babbitt, bearing metal) you can be certain it's rebuild time

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 03:49 PM


there's only one way to check this one, and that's with a rebuild. although indicative, the oil wont tell you what state the crank journals are in- most likely to be damaged :(


What's in the oil is a good indicator, if there's a load of silvery metal flakes (babbitt, bearing metal) you can be certain it's rebuild time


Yep! but if the oil looks 'alright' doesn't meant it's not shagged =]

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 03:57 PM

So have a look in the oil filter and see what's there?

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 05:04 PM

Before you spend any money on oil changes Compression Check It

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 06:12 PM

Before you spend any money on oil changes Compression Check It


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