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[Mattl]

Id look at a megane 1.5dci cheap and decent on juice

[rob mini]

Take a look at the new 1.6 dtec civic. I took one to lemans a few weeks ago and we averaged 85mpg with three people and rammed with luggage. Just swapped from a 2010 A3 and can't recommend it enough!

[samsfern]

2007 peugeot 207 diesel? Any good?

[jmmini]

If you want a car that will drive as well as a mini (imo) and still get 60 mpg easy, pick up a 1.5 diesel metro. I've been running one with the mini off the road and I can't fault it but as I've been teased into finance on a new fiesta eco-boost at Goodwood (doh! I do like them though :L) it's having to go, but it was great 500+ miles in a day without missing a beat.

[jmmini]

2007 peugeot 207 diesel? Any good?

Depends in you want fun or reliability or economy. I do believe diesel goes a long way with the new 207 though

[samsfern]

Again, metros a bit too old, my lass will be driving it mostly. Im not too worried about something "fun" ive got my fiesta for that.

We had a look at a new 12 plate focus tdci zetec s the other week, i was tempted, but i didnt really fancy spending that kind of money, as it would lose its value too quickly in my opinion.

Edited by samsfern, 13 July 2013 - 10:39 AM.

[mk1monster]

Got a Kia ceed 1.6crdi quite like it, good little motor great once up and going just often sluggish on boost.

You keep saying you can get cheap diesel. I hope nothing dirty or funny coloured ;-)as modern common rail won't like it.

[Cooperman]

Be a bit careful about which diesel you buy.

It is not generally known, but card built before 2007 and fitted with the Dephi common rail injection pump can suffer catastrophic failure. The pump was designed in about 1998 and was designed to be lubricated by the diesel fuel. However, with the added 'bio-fuel' in current diesel fuel it causes the pump to fail and swarf gets pumped through the injectors which scraps them as well. My neighbour had this on her 55-plate Focus TDCi and the estimate for changing pump, injectors and pipes was just under £3000. The injectors have to be re-coded to the ECU. This has, yesterday, happened to my Grandson's 2004 Mondeo 2.0 TDCi, which was my wife's car until recently, so I'll make sure he does not lose out from this.  

Apparently it's is a common problem on not only Ford, but Vauxhall, Peugeot, Citroen, Renault and some VAG cars with smaller engines and the Delphi pump.

Cars with a Bosch pump, like BMW and Mercedes are not affected. However, some BMW diesels, mainly before 2007, can suffer from failure of the swirl flaps in the inlet manifold which go into the engine and damage pistons, valves & injectors. However, it is easy to remove the swirl flaps and replace with blanking plates, which I did to my 730d yesterday.

I have to say that the 2004 Mondeo 2.0 TDCi was fantastic up to 100,000 miles and if we had changed the injection pump at about 80,000 miles it would still be fine. Hindsight is free!

Edited by Cooperman, 13 July 2013 - 01:15 PM.

[samsfern]

Got a Kia ceed 1.6crdi quite like it, good little motor great once up and going just often sluggish on boost.
You keep saying you can get cheap diesel. I hope nothing dirty or funny coloured ;-)as modern common rail won't like it.

No, its pump fuel, through a friends work.

[Tommyboy12]

Sounds like bus diesel to me but whatever.

 

The Ford/PSA engined cars will see you good in most cases but the Peugeot 207 is one hell of dreary drive. A 207 weighs around 200kgs more than a Fiesta and you can definitely feel it when its lugging itself around.

[samsfern]

Well, put a deposit down on a 2007 peugeot 207 hdi sport, i get it in a few weeks when it comes off of permanent hire, will also have a fresh mot when i get it

[Cooperman]

My local scrapyard currently has 4 Mondeo TDCi's in, all scrap due to the fuel pump/injector issue I mentioned above.

Don't buy a Mondeo or Focus TDCi earlier than 2007 or 2008 as that is when the fuel pump was changed for a reliable one. 

[ANON]

well i binned the dpf and got my saab remapped, sat at 90mph on a dead flat is shows as doing 70mpg  

[samsfern]

An i correct in thinking the 2007 peugeot ive just pretty much bought has the same engine as the 1.6 diesel focus of similar year?

[Carlos W]

well i binned the dpf and got my saab remapped, sat at 90mph on a dead flat is shows as doing 70mpg  

Really tempted to do this on my Mazda 6

 

DPF off and a quick remap = 202 BHP and 400NM of torque.

 

Incidently, I have heard very similar horror stories around Ford diesels, the same thing happened to my friends transit van! The bill was like a telephone number, so many digits!