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#46 jonny95

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 04:50 PM

An i correct in thinking the 2007 peugeot ive just pretty much bought has the same engine as the 1.6 diesel focus of similar year?

 

That is correct

Peugeots, Citroens, Fods, Mazdas, Volvos and Minis all use that engine



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Posted 17 July 2013 - 05:06 PM

Really surprised no one has mentioned the diesel MG ZT or ZT-T. BMW engine, half decently put together and a lot of car for the money.

Like this for instance

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item19df21463f

I am biased because I own a 2005 ZT-T and absolutely love it to bits. 50-55mpg at 80 on the m-way, can't beat it for the money.

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 05:50 PM

I had thought about a zr diesel actually.

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 06:05 PM

Really surprised no one has mentioned the diesel MG ZT or ZT-T. BMW engine, half decently put together and a lot of car for the money.

Like this for instance

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item19df21463f

I am biased because I own a 2005 ZT-T and absolutely love it to bits. 50-55mpg at 80 on the m-way, can't beat it for the money.
 

that's tidy looking, on the hunt for an estate at the moment, seem to get a fair amount for your money - although I'm still drawn to the vag 1.9's at the moment.... sell it to me (not literally) but tell me how good it is! would have to debadge it otherwise my dad would ******* it out the driveway with an mg badge!



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Posted 17 July 2013 - 06:39 PM

 

well i binned the dpf and got my saab remapped, sat at 90mph on a dead flat is shows as doing 70mpg :D 

Really tempted to do this on my Mazda 6

 

DPF off and a quick remap = 202 BHP and 400NM of torque.

 

Incidently, I have heard very similar horror stories around Ford diesels, the same thing happened to my friends transit van! The bill was like a telephone number, so many digits!

 

 

 

well worth it, struggle to get it under 40mpg round town!!!

 

 

 

as for fords the 1.6dci is about the worst of them!!



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Posted 17 July 2013 - 07:39 PM

well i binned the dpf and got my saab remapped, sat at 90mph on a dead flat is shows as doing 70mpg :D 

Really tempted to do this on my Mazda 6
 
DPF off and a quick remap = 202 BHP and 400NM of torque.
 
Incidently, I have heard very similar horror stories around Ford diesels, the same thing happened to my friends transit van! The bill was like a telephone number, so many digits!

 
 
well worth it, struggle to get it under 40mpg round town!!!
 
 
 
as for fords the 1.6dci is about the worst of them!!


Will you get it through an mot alright?

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 07:56 PM

An i correct in thinking the 2007 peugeot ive just pretty much bought has the same engine as the 1.6 diesel focus of similar year?

 

yes the 1600 is the dv6, not a bad engine if the oil is changed regular and isnt used for short trips. same basic engine as the 1400 hdi dv4 thats used in the fiesta/207/206/many others



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Posted 17 July 2013 - 08:45 PM


Will you get it through an mot alright?

 

 

yup, be fine.



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Posted 28 July 2013 - 08:37 PM

The gf has very recently said that she would like a newer car because she doesn't really like older cars. As I have a mini for an older car, she thinks the main car should be newer than our 02 Rover 25.. So I will soon be looking for something but she is very into efficiency. The Mazda 6 sounds a good idea with a remap. Or the Saabs. I was also looking at the Jag X Type. I'm looking between 05 and 07, because despite wanting a newer car she also doesn't want to spend a lot!

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Posted 28 July 2013 - 08:42 PM

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Posted 28 July 2013 - 08:43 PM

The Mazda 6 sounds a good idea with a remap.


Hopefully having mine mapped on Wednesday

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Posted 28 July 2013 - 08:51 PM

You want a 03 plate bora tdi that I have for sale :P only 100bhp as standard so cheap to insure it has been remapped to 140bhp


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Posted 28 July 2013 - 09:04 PM

Im using the 07 peugeot 207 for a weeks trial soon, so ill see how i get on with it, if its crap then ill be looking at an mgzr turbo diesel.

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 08:47 AM

That is quite nice Bean. I do like Alfas. I like the Brera :D



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Posted 29 July 2013 - 09:13 AM

Be a bit careful about which diesel you buy.

It is not generally known, but card built before 2007 and fitted with the Dephi common rail injection pump can suffer catastrophic failure. The pump was designed in about 1998 and was designed to be lubricated by the diesel fuel. However, with the added 'bio-fuel' in current diesel fuel it causes the pump to fail and swarf gets pumped through the injectors which scraps them as well. My neighbour had this on her 55-plate Focus TDCi and the estimate for changing pump, injectors and pipes was just under £3000. The injectors have to be re-coded to the ECU. This has, yesterday, happened to my Grandson's 2004 Mondeo 2.0 TDCi, which was my wife's car until recently, so I'll make sure he does not lose out from this.  

Apparently it's is a common problem on not only Ford, but Vauxhall, Peugeot, Citroen, Renault and some VAG cars with smaller engines and the Delphi pump.

Cars with a Bosch pump, like BMW and Mercedes are not affected. However, some BMW diesels, mainly before 2007, can suffer from failure of the swirl flaps in the inlet manifold which go into the engine and damage pistons, valves & injectors. However, it is easy to remove the swirl flaps and replace with blanking plates, which I did to my 730d yesterday.

I have to say that the 2004 Mondeo 2.0 TDCi was fantastic up to 100,000 miles and if we had changed the injection pump at about 80,000 miles it would still be fine. Hindsight is free!

Would this include the Jag X-Type diesels, which as I understand are essentially Mondeos under the hood?






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