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[Black.Ghost]

Mk3 Cooper, I accept the laws you have posted. But how many car drivers still get irate at a single cyclist following the rules? It's a huge divide between the two groups.


Rule 162:
Before overtaking you should make sure
the road is sufficiently clear ahead
there is a suitable gap in front of the road user you plan to overtake
Rule 163:
Overtake only when it is safe and legal to do so. You should
not get too close to the vehicle you intend to overtake
move quickly past the vehicle you are overtaking, once you have started to overtake. Allow plenty of room. Move back to the left as soon as you can but do not cut in
give motorcyclists, cyclists and horse riders at least as much room as you would when overtaking a car (see Rules 211-215)

How many car drivers follow that? it doesn't say you should have 400hp and blast past as quickly as you can. If you are overtaking on a bend the chances are you can't see the space you are going into. In which case you should be overtaking.

It's called dangerous driving.

[HarrysMini]

 

if you are on a narrow road you cannot overtake a single cyclists safely full stop so we ride two abreast to discourage cars from overtaking us dangerously as there isnt the space for them to do so at all

More fool you for that attitude as it isnt the car driver that will come of worse.

 

You can overtake easily with 400 bhp

 

I think this statement just backs up the title of this thread.

[creakyjaws5533]

When do yoy ever see car drivers side by side apart from overtaking? so no it doesnt work for them as it doesn't apply to them

[creakyjaws5533]

if you are on a narrow road you cannot overtake a single cyclists safely full stop so we ride two abreast to discourage cars from overtaking us dangerously as there isnt the space for them to do so at all

More fool you for that attitude as it isnt the car driver that will come of worse.
 
You can overtake easily with 400 bhp

I think this statement just backs up the title of this thread.

there's two statements

Edited by creakyjaws5533, 05 March 2014 - 12:36 PM.

[mk3 Cooper S]

If you ride in single file the overtaking car does not need to cross onto the oncoming side of the road and is therfore ultimatley safer.

 

It is irrelivent how I drive or what I drive but you can state what is right and wrong and not take the law into account on a public forum.

 

I suggest when you have 30 years of roadcraft and driving experience you will know that the number one rule is not to place yourself in a vulnerable position.

 

It is called defensive riding, taught to be by the police motorcycle trainer

[HarrysMini]

 

 

 

if you are on a narrow road you cannot overtake a single cyclists safely full stop so we ride two abreast to discourage cars from overtaking us dangerously as there isnt the space for them to do so at all

More fool you for that attitude as it isnt the car driver that will come of worse.
 
You can overtake easily with 400 bhp

I think this statement just backs up the title of this thread.

there's two statements

 

The latter one.

[mk3 Cooper S]

 

 

if you are on a narrow road you cannot overtake a single cyclists safely full stop so we ride two abreast to discourage cars from overtaking us dangerously as there isnt the space for them to do so at all

More fool you for that attitude as it isnt the car driver that will come of worse.

 

You can overtake easily with 400 bhp

 

I think this statement just backs up the title of this thread.

 

And you have passed your test how many years exactly?

[creakyjaws5533]

If you ride in single file the overtaking car does not need to cross onto the oncoming side of the road and is therfore ultimatley safer.
 
It is irrelivent how I drive or what I drive but you can state what is right and wrong and not take the law into account on a public forum.
 
I suggest when you have 30 years of roadcraft and driving experience you will know that the number one rule is not to place yourself in a vulnerable position.
 
It is called defensive riding, taught to b
e by the police motorcycle trainer

its does need to cross the line if it is overtaking that statement implies you don't drive safely

[creakyjaws5533]

if you are on a narrow road you cannot overtake a single cyclists safely full stop so we ride two abreast to discourage cars from overtaking us dangerously as there isnt the space for them to do so at all

More fool you for that attitude as it isnt the car driver that will come of worse.
 
You can overtake easily with 400 bhp

I think this statement just backs up the title of this thread.

And you have passed your test how many years exactly?

doesn't matter if he has passed he can spot an idiot quite cleary

Edited by creakyjaws5533, 05 March 2014 - 12:44 PM.

[HarrysMini]

 

 

 

 

if you are on a narrow road you cannot overtake a single cyclists safely full stop so we ride two abreast to discourage cars from overtaking us dangerously as there isnt the space for them to do so at all

More fool you for that attitude as it isnt the car driver that will come of worse.
 
You can overtake easily with 400 bhp

I think this statement just backs up the title of this thread.

And you have passed your test how many years exactly?

doesn't matter if he has past he can spot an idiot quite cleary

 

And that makes any difference how? 

[mk3 Cooper S]

 

If you ride in single file the overtaking car does not need to cross onto the oncoming side of the road and is therfore ultimatley safer.
 
It is irrelivent how I drive or what I drive but you can state what is right and wrong and not take the law into account on a public forum.
 
I suggest when you have 30 years of roadcraft and driving experience you will know that the number one rule is not to place yourself in a vulnerable position.
 
It is called defensive riding, taught to b
e by the police motorcycle trainer

its does need to cross the line if it is overtaking that statement implies you don't drive safely

 

There is a time and place. I drive safely on the road

[Black.Ghost]

Crap. Utter crap. You should give the same space as a car. If you can't do that without crossing then so be it. If you can't do it, you have to wait. Defensive riding and driving does not mean you must get past at all costs.

30 years driving experience counts for nothing with an attitude of Just squeeze past and 400 hp. Anyone can ride defensively but with people just squeezing past using all 400hp, there's going to be accidents. 30 years of driving should have taught you give everything the space you should on the road. Squeezing past might be safe for you but not the cyclist. Whatever vehicle you are in, you have a responsibility to not put anyone else in undue danger. Not everyone has had defensive riding and you can't possibly treat them as such.

[creakyjaws5533]

If you ride in single file the overtaking car does not need to cross onto the oncoming side of the road and is therfore ultimatley safer.
 
It is irrelivent how I drive or what I drive but you can state what is right and wrong and not take the law into account on a public forum.
 
I suggest when you have 30 years of roadcraft and driving experience you will know that the number one rule is not to place yourself in a vulnerable position.
 
It is called defensive riding, taught to b
e by the police motorcycle trainer

its does need to cross the line if it is overtaking that statement implies you don't drive safely

There is a time and place. I drive safely on the road

sounds as if you drive like a young chav wuth the statements you are making

[mk3 Cooper S]

Not sure how I became the target here.

 

The law is the law

 

 

 

 

 

if you are on a narrow road you cannot overtake a single cyclists safely full stop so we ride two abreast to discourage cars from overtaking us dangerously as there isnt the space for them to do so at all

More fool you for that attitude as it isnt the car driver that will come of worse.
 
You can overtake easily with 400 bhp

I think this statement just backs up the title of this thread.

And you have passed your test how many years exactly?

doesn't matter if he has passed he can spot an idiot quite cleary

 

ha ha

[mk3 Cooper S]

 

 

 

If you ride in single file the overtaking car does not need to cross onto the oncoming side of the road and is therfore ultimatley safer.
 
It is irrelivent how I drive or what I drive but you can state what is right and wrong and not take the law into account on a public forum.
 
I suggest when you have 30 years of roadcraft and driving experience you will know that the number one rule is not to place yourself in a vulnerable position.
 
It is called defensive riding, taught to b
e by the police motorcycle trainer

its does need to cross the line if it is overtaking that statement implies you don't drive safely

There is a time and place. I drive safely on the road

sounds as if you drive like a young chav wuth the statements you are making

 

Nothing Chavvy about me

 

Sounds like you ride in accordance to the UK law with the statements you are making