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[BronkoMini]

so every corner you expect a group to single out? you obviously have no experience riding in a group as you would learn how stupid that is.
JUST SQUEEZE past that isnt safe at all therefore an overtake shouldn't be attempted as it wont again make the cyclist at risk

It's hard on a forum to explain what is actually meant, I meant that if some tool was racing round some windy bends then as a cyclist if you were riding two abreast then your more likely to get hit than if you were in single file. Scenario: a boy racer in his Clio is racing round the lanes, when sundely round a bend there is a group of cyclists in single file and a car coming the other way the racer can't slow down enough and he is about to hit the cyclists when he manages to swerve round them and in between them and the car coming the other way, however if they were two abreast he would have know where to go so would plow through the cyclists. Does that make sense?

[firstforward]

 

so every corner you expect a group to single out? you obviously have no experience riding in a group as you would learn how stupid that is.
JUST SQUEEZE past that isnt safe at all therefore an overtake shouldn't be attempted as it wont again make the cyclist at risk

It's hard on a forum to explain what is actually meant, I meant that if some tool was racing round some windy bends then as a cyclist if you were riding two abreast then your more likely to get hit than if you were in single file. Scenario: a boy racer in his Clio is racing round the lanes, when sundely round a bend there is a group of cyclists in single file and a car coming the other way the racer can't slow down enough and he is about to hit the cyclists when he manages to swerve round them and in between them and the car coming the other way, however if they were two abreast he would have know where to go so would plow through the cyclists. Does that make sense?

 

 

It makes perfect sense, but not to all it appears!!

[BronkoMini]

Oh good and hopefully they will understand now

[firstforward]

Oh good and hopefully they will understand now

 

Don't hold your breath.....

[mk3 Cooper S]

 

so every corner you expect a group to single out? you obviously have no experience riding in a group as you would learn how stupid that is.
JUST SQUEEZE past that isnt safe at all therefore an overtake shouldn't be attempted as it wont again make the cyclist at risk

It's hard on a forum to explain what is actually meant, I meant that if some tool was racing round some windy bends then as a cyclist if you were riding two abreast then your more likely to get hit than if you were in single file. Scenario: a boy racer in his Clio is racing round the lanes, when sundely round a bend there is a group of cyclists in single file and a car coming the other way the racer can't slow down enough and he is about to hit the cyclists when he manages to swerve round them and in between them and the car coming the other way, however if they were two abreast he would have know where to go so would plow through the cyclists. Does that make sense?

 

Perfect sense.

 

It is not that uncommon I should imagine.

[creakyjaws5533]

so every corner you expect a group to single out? you obviously have no experience riding in a group as you would learn how stupid that is.
JUST SQUEEZE past that isnt safe at all therefore an overtake shouldn't be attempted as it wont again make the cyclist at risk

It's hard on a forum to explain what is actually meant, I meant that if some tool was racing round some windy bends then as a cyclist if you were riding two abreast then your more likely to get hit than if you were in single file. Scenario: a boy racer in his Clio is racing round the lanes, when sundely round a bend there is a group of cyclists in single file and a car coming the other way the racer can't slow down enough and he is about to hit the cyclists when he manages to swerve round them and in between them and the car coming the other way, however if they were two abreast he would have know where to go so would plow through the cyclists. Does that make sense?

Yes that does make sense but if I boy racer is going that fast I doubt he will able to negotiate the gap with hitting the cyclists or the other car, but we dont get boy racers around when we are out

[creakyjaws5533]

so every corner you expect a group to single out? you obviously have no experience riding in a group as you would learn how stupid that is.
JUST SQUEEZE past that isnt safe at all therefore an overtake shouldn't be attempted as it wont again make the cyclist at risk

It's hard on a forum to explain what is actually meant, I meant that if some tool was racing round some windy bends then as a cyclist if you were riding two abreast then your more likely to get hit than if you were in single file. Scenario: a boy racer in his Clio is racing round the lanes, when sundely round a bend there is a group of cyclists in single file and a car coming the other way the racer can't slow down enough and he is about to hit the cyclists when he manages to swerve round them and in between them and the car coming the other way, however if they were two abreast he would have know where to go so would plow through the cyclists. Does that make sense?

Perfect sense.
 
It is not that uncommon I should imagine.

Not happened to me in 4 years of being out for 70 miles every saturday and commuting so it is pretty uncommon

[MaxAndPaddy]

 

so every corner you expect a group to single out? you obviously have no experience riding in a group as you would learn how stupid that is.
JUST SQUEEZE past that isnt safe at all therefore an overtake shouldn't be attempted as it wont again make the cyclist at risk

It's hard on a forum to explain what is actually meant, I meant that if some tool was racing round some windy bends then as a cyclist if you were riding two abreast then your more likely to get hit than if you were in single file. Scenario: a boy racer in his Clio is racing round the lanes, when sundely round a bend there is a group of cyclists in single file and a car coming the other way the racer can't slow down enough and he is about to hit the cyclists when he manages to swerve round them and in between them and the car coming the other way, however if they were two abreast he would have know where to go so would plow through the cyclists. Does that make sense?

 

 

I've actually had this sort of thing happen and it scared the begeebbbbbezzzzz out of me....country road, blind corner, wasnt going fast but they were directly coming at me in the opposite direction and 3/4 abreast in a gang!!! 

 

Then lifted their fists screamed abuse and called me a 'banker' (think thats what they said )....but I'd done nothing wrong ....

 

Wonder though if I had of hit a few of them who would of got done for it?

 

Same with horses, I always slow down for them. But we have quite a few race yards round our way and u can go round a corner and have Red Rums tatty cousin try and sit on your bonnet

 

Back roads are a minefield round here  

[Ethel]

The Highway Code isn't the law, it's a code of conduct for safer use of the road. It does interpret the law, and never offers advice that breaks it, but it will go further than the law in the interests of safety. Have an accident, and the civil courts will also be less interested in whether what you were doing was illegal than whether you were making reasonable efforts not to have one. 

 

You certainly shouldn't be reading the bits that apply to other road users to justify your own actions, the whole point is to offer advice to you that reduces accidents if those you encounter fail to follow the Highway Code.

[mk3 Cooper S]

On a 60 (or 50 mph as most are now) the closing speed between a car and a cycle is very fast meaning that fast reactions maybe required in some sinearios.

 

It is nothing to do with boy racers but normal road users driving in accordance with the speed limits too.

[creakyjaws5533]

On a 60 (or 50 mph as most are now) the closing speed between a car and a cycle is very fast meaning that fast reactions maybe required in some sinearios.
 
It is nothing to do with boy racers but normal road users driving in accordance with the speed limits too.

most road users drive rather well its the minority of ignorant ones that cause the problems

[Carlos W]

Same with horses, I always slow down for them. But we have quite a few race yards round our way and u can go round a corner and have Red Rums tatty cousin try and sit on your bonnet

 

Back roads are a minefield round here  

 

 

I'm not sure all horse riders consider the fact they are sitting on something that can weigh upwards of half a ton!

[BronkoMini]

so every corner you expect a group to single out? you obviously have no experience riding in a group as you would learn how stupid that is.
JUST SQUEEZE past that isnt safe at all therefore an overtake shouldn't be attempted as it wont again make the cyclist at risk

It's hard on a forum to explain what is actually meant, I meant that if some tool was racing round some windy bends then as a cyclist if you were riding two abreast then your more likely to get hit than if you were in single file. Scenario: a boy racer in his Clio is racing round the lanes, when sundely round a bend there is a group of cyclists in single file and a car coming the other way the racer can't slow down enough and he is about to hit the cyclists when he manages to swerve round them and in between them and the car coming the other way, however if they were two abreast he would have know where to go so would plow through the cyclists. Does that make sense?

 
I've actually had this sort of thing happen and it scared the begeebbbbbezzzzz out of me....country road, blind corner, wasnt going fast but they were directly coming at me in the opposite direction and 3/4 abreast in a gang!!! 
 
Then lifted their fists screamed abuse and called me a 'banker' (think thats what they said )....but I'd done nothing wrong ....
 
Wonder though if I had of hit a few of them who would of got done for it?
 
Same with horses, I always slow down for them. But we have quite a few race yards round our way and u can go round a corner and have Red Rums tatty cousin try and sit on your bonnet
 
Back roads are a minefield round here  

We had a problem last summer with two horses they would not move over when there were two tractors with full trailers, it's not like you can reverse a tractor round a blind bend with loads of cars behind, all the horses needed to do was go single file, befor anyone sais why didn't you let them pass, they would move forward either, and the horses were as calm as a cucumber. The horses did have riders on as well just incase someone doesn't realises that people ride horses,

[firstforward]

I wonder what the percentage is of ignorant car drivers V's Bike riders is?

[BronkoMini]

 
I'm not sure all horse riders consider the fact they are sitting on something that can weigh upwards of half a ton!

Don't you mean that some of the horse riders don't realise that they weigh upwards of half a ton, feel sorry for the horses or even ponys