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[Matt]

nope...

the watsons frame and the 16vminishop are both doing them without needing an extended front
reason for the extended front is slight more room on the bulk head... *weber box will do the same*
but the oil filter and the alternator touch the front.

resolved by relocating alternator and using a remote oil filter housing.

[mighty_mini]

Matt, your right.. but wrong.

The watsons frame which fits under and unmodified front is actually a K-series frame adapted to take the B/D series engines (Honda). Im extending the front as i'd prefer to have lots of space free rather than cram it right in. The rad i got is huge and my next mods might need space around the exhaust manifold

Another thing i would do if i started this project again... cut the front crossmember off the K-series frame and make it 3-4" shorter

[Matt]

ahh okay...
so i am right in the sence it will fit without extending the front end..
just need a few bits and bobs to be moved around and it would be quite a squeeze.

but will it go in.. even though i have a more or less standard front end.. albeit less the inner wings

[mighty_mini]

Standard K-series in an unmolested clubman = yes...

Standard K-series in an unmolested round-nose = no, unless its built like a tardis..

[who_loves_the_mini?]

I believe matt is right in saying the 16v mini shop frame will fit in a standard round nose if you relocate the alternator and use a remote oil filter, also uses mini suspension

[Matt]

well i know im right.. i phoned them

but wasnt sure about going in a standard front....

but with a normal subframe... you dont need to take the front off to get a mini subframe out?
so why any different with the k series?

[who_loves_the_mini?]

but with a normal subframe... you dont need to take the front off to get a mini subframe out?
so why any different with the k series?

are the k series engines not wider and require some "trimming" of the inner wings. would it also fit through the bonnet hole? could always lift the shell over the subframe though

[Matt]

well this is what im asking... as i dont have inner wings... my car was previously a flip front.. but its now had a normal front welded back on.
with some very nice paint over the top.. so im reluctant to pull it apart.

and i wouldnt mind taking off one subframe... and then lifting the body over the top of it.

[Pie]

I remember a while ago there was a mini van with a "lotus" engine, IIRC it was just the 1.8VVC metro engine, but i THINK that was in a standard front. Might be worth getting a back issue and having a look?

I think it was in miniworld, not 100% sure though.

[ed4ran]

There is a thread on this very subject over on 16vMiniClub

Linky

[Matt]

lol still doesnt answer my question though... he fits it in a standard front.. and the 16vminishop also have one which they claim will fit on a standard front. BUT>>.... i dont want to remove the front to do it!!
and they have

[Pie]

have you not just answered your own question then? lol

[Matt]

lol right hes fit it into a standard removable front end?? right????


I WANT TO FIT IT WITH THE FRONT END STILL ATTACHED!

[ed4ran]

Yes, if it fits a standard front then it should even if its fitted!!!

[Matt]

THANK YOU!

sorry dave.. as you were