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[Gilles1000]

@Colinf1: yes.

 

These are pictures from inside my car (caution, rust showing in hidden corners...)

 

 

And after, once repaired:

 

 

But I'm not able to say if the door step and B-post inner closing panel are welded together on this corner, I did not see spot welds here.

I know that the 3/4 panel is not welded to these parts, besides the two spot welds close to the fold (see first picture) and at the outside there is some factory brazing on the lower lip where the 3/4 covers the door step.

 

[gaspen]

Viktor !

 

You don't have to plug weld the vertical part of the door step to the B-post. See red rectangle.

 

You have to seam weld it where you cut the B-post. See orange line

 

There is a little "step" at the rear corner of the door step panel. The rear quarter panel will fit into this "step". The blue "thing" on my stupid drawing is the qurter panel's corner.

 

Two plug weld will join them together from outside. See pink dots.

 

 

 

 

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[Gilles1000]

Gaspen, you mean like this? 

 

 

I agree with you on all points.

[Viktor]

This is my thinking on it,

 

 

I think the step/door frame sits behind the rear 3/4 panel....

Hi Colin, amazing sketch mate. Thanks, that clarifies a few things. I have a question though, see below as highlioghted in yellow.

 

 

Is that piece part of the floor / sills? I was going to remove it, but now I'm not sure.

 

Also, it is still not clear to me which part of the step repair panel I need to cut as per Ben's comments, but we are getting there!

Edited by Viktor, 15 November 2021 - 07:26 PM.

[Viktor]

Viktor !

 

You don't have to plug weld the vertical part of the door step to the B-post. See red rectangle.

 

You have to seam weld it where you cut the B-post. See orange line

 

There is a little "step" at the rear corner of the door step panel. The rear quarter panel will fit into this "step". The blue "thing" on my stupid drawing is the qurter panel's corner.

 

Two plug weld will join them together from outside. See pink dots.

Thanks Gaspen, that is very clear. Your drawing is really good and useful, so thanks for taking the time to do it! 

[Viktor]

Gaspen, you mean like this? 

 

 

I agree with you on all points.

Thanks Gilles for the photo. I think I have it clear now.

 

Thanks everyone for your input. Im overwelmed for the amount of responses I had. This forum is so great!

 

Cheers.

 

Victor.

 

P.S. this might happen again in the future, so be patient with me... 

[gaspen]

Here is the cross section of the sill. I really recommend to understand now 

 

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And now I understand what Ben wants to cut at the B-post : You have to cut  a liitle more ONLY from the quarter panel to weld the step panel to the B-post. The red line shows where to weld.

 

When they produced the car at the factory the whole door frame was one piece. That is why your door step repair panel must welded to the B-post.

 

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[Viktor]

Thanks Gaspen. The cross section is very useful. I think I know now what Ben was referring to based on your photo. 

 

Cheers.

 

Victor.

[Ben_O]

Sorry for the late reply

 

I think the others have explained it all perfectly and now you know what I meant.

 

 

Cheers

Ben 

[Viktor]

Thanks Ben and all. Your support and advice is highly appreciated.

 

Victor.

[Viktor]

Okay, so I started welding the step in place and I believe I did it as it should be, but open to comments. It is frustrating that I'm still doing some holes when welding. It mainly happens when welding new metal with old metal 

 

 

I cut a bit more of the quarter panel, so I can weld the step panel to the B-post.

 

 

 

And ginded down. I will come back to the holes at some point, today I was too angry about it 

 

 

 

Then I moved to the front, and started the plug welds

 

 

 

And that's all grinded down. I had another hole at the top joint, again very frustrating.

 

 

Now I need to order a few more parts before I can continue, so migth take a few days off. Until then...

 

 

Cheers.

 

Victor

[Ben_O]

Looks fine but the vertical seam weld in your 3rd picture was unnesacery.

Can't see that it would hurt though.

 

Good job 

 

Cheers

Ben 

[Viktor]

Thanks Ben. I thought the step needs to be fixed to the B-post, so I welded it along that line in addition to the plug welds I already opened (by mistake). It's quite solid now, so I guess it's not going anywhere. I made it flush, so as you said it should be fine when the quarter panel comes in.

 

I need to find the door hinges, so I can put the door back in place and check the gaps. I know I should have done this before welding, so fingers crossed...

 

Victor.

[sonscar]

Not trying to be funny,but can you see where you are welding as you seem to miss both panels quite often.I find a good light on the task area is useful.Are you comfortable and supporting the torch with both hands?Might seem silly but try a dummy run before welding to check the feel of what you are about to do.Well done,you are making good progress,Steve..

[Viktor]

Hi Steve,

Good point mate, thanks for raising it. I still struggle to get the welds where I want them to be. I bought a tripod LED lamp this week and used it yesterday for the first time.

 

 

Problem is that the light is so strong that obscures the welding mask, so I have to put it away a bit so I can see the area I want to weld. Now I have a much better view of the area I want to work on, but still missing the spots sometimes. I guess I need a bit more of practice... 

Cheers.

Victor