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[minivanman]

Dude, everybody has a day like that. Just leave it for a bit, you'll go back and everything will work fine. Trust me, I've felt the same so many times. If I was closer I'd come and give you a hand with it.

[Dog]

Its not that.
Whats getting me, is I;ve spent 8 months building it up, getting it in, and running.
Fair enough, it broke again, so striped it, and now its still broken

I double and trebel checked everything before rebuild it, got my end floats, my gaps, my torque settings.... what can it frigging be grrrrrr

[Dog]

Well yet again, I am face to face with my bloody flywheel....



A friend from my clubs forum, used to race Minis, and mention had I "spaced" the clutch correctly. After he explianing what it means by spacing, and a quick glance on Minispares, it seems I somehow, never knew about spacing clutches

But anyways, after the check, it would seem, I've been running the clutch far, far, far tooooo tight!
The picture below, is the gap I need to space up... I was bolting the straps, directly onto the back plate, so making the clutch, already too tight, and this would be why I couldn't slip the clutch too....

One horn...


Two horn...

[The Matt]

Mate, take a look in my project thread, there's an attempt at a guide in there for setting the drive straps. But yeah, yours are well out by the looks of it.

Also, get yer spring flat mate. Deffo worth doing that.

As for hating minis, I had plenty of days like that with the exact same type of clutch problems as you. Mine's fine now, just get her done man, it'll be right soon!

PM/text me if you need any advice with it too mate.

[Dog]

Mate, take a look in my project thread, there's an attempt at a guide in there for setting the drive straps. But yeah, yours are well out by the looks of it.

Also, get yer spring flat mate. Deffo worth doing that.

As for hating minis, I had plenty of days like that with the exact same type of clutch problems as you. Mine's fine now, just get her done man, it'll be right soon!

PM/text me if you need any advice with it too mate.

Thanks dude

What do u mean by spring?
I will trundle off and nosey now, whats the best way to space such a gap?

[The Matt]

Here y'are mate:

CLINKEROO

[The Matt]

it's a round spring, inside the 'cover' the bit that pushes against the flywheel. If it's flat when you set the clutch alignment it will make the pedal as soft as possible.

Before you machine the spacers down or add washers to the backplate horns, check that (with washers on the horns) the spring in the cover sits flat when it's all tightened together. Then you know what you need to do. With that much to space out, I'm not sure which I'd do, I think I'd machine the spacers down, but it'll depend on spring position.

Search minimania for a good guide on the spring flatness

[Dog]

Thanks matt, your the breast

I did "set" mine right? Just read ur thread, and I see u raised the back plate up, I didn't do this? I just lay it flat on the bench, was I meant to raise it?

Edited by Dog, 04 April 2008 - 06:01 PM.

[Jordie]

If its any help, with my ultralight flywheel, the local race tuners told me to build it up on a table like you have and fit washers. Straps should be straight when fitted and torqued up he told me.

And if u dont want it(the van), ill give you a grand for it.

Edited by Jordie, 04 April 2008 - 06:38 PM.

[Dog]

Yeh, after reading Matts problems, I think I've solved mine too. I never knew I had to space the clutch!
Never mind, I just need to hope I can get some washers to fill a 6mm gap!

[Jordie]

yeah that was my problem too, but i think my gap was around 4mm.

[The Matt]

Try and avoid using washers for the final fit, they're OK for spacing it out to check/measure though.

You 'could' machine down the spacers that are already there by the 6mm that you have, rather than adding a spacer on top of the backplate horns, but it seems weird that it's that far out to be honest. Weird.

How thick are your current spacers?

[Dog]

I don't have any spacers atm.

[camp freddy]

I don't have any spacers atm.

whoever supplied the machined flywheel should have supplied some
machined posts to replace the posts machined off when lightened.

[Dog]

i bought the flywheel second hand... eventually from someone on here.

Prob never sent them in spite the fact I threatened him that I was going to come knockling on his door if he didn't send it....
Never mind, I'll machine something at workies.