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[yorkshirechris]

Another thing, I see so many lads my age, chavved up, driving Impreza's and other expensive cars around crappy area... the words drug dealers spring to mind.

Then I think "well, they might have an expensive car, but they'll never have a half decent house and hold down a good job like me"

But then I start to doubt whether holding down a good job is actually a benefit in today's welfare-dependent society?

[Bean]

I don't work and don't pay tax.

I'm currently living off a student loan, whilst studying my degree.

Am I going to be cast out and burnt at the stake?

[ROCKET]

I don't work and don't pay tax.

I'm currently living off a student loan, whilst studying my degree.

Am I going to be cast out and burnt at the stake?

No because you've got such a lovely mini

[imabitnaughtyxx]

I don't work and don't pay tax.

I'm currently living off a student loan, whilst studying my degree.

Am I going to be cast out and burnt at the stake?

Dont be silly, you can see very well what we are all getting at, when you eventually get into the workplace, and join us in the land of the working people, pay ridiculous taxes on everything, work endless hours and still have bugger all to show for it, while other persons are out there, legless jobless, drugged etc etc, paying 50p a week on their tv licence fine it will get to you as well.
Enjoy your almost frivolous lifestyle while you can xxxxx ( thats meant lighthearted by the way) xxx KC

Edited by imabitnaughtyxx, 07 February 2008 - 07:57 PM.

[dave20046]

Another thing, I see so many lads my age, chavved up, driving Impreza's and other expensive cars around crappy area... the words drug dealers spring to mind.

Then I think "well, they might have an expensive car, but they'll never have a half decent house and hold down a good job like me"

But then I start to doubt whether holding down a good job is actually a benefit in today's welfare-dependent society?

Know exactly how you feel....

[yorkshirechris]

Bean you're going to Uni to get qualifications to get a high paid job which will eventually pay back into the system a hell of a lot more than you're taking at the moment

So that's alright

It's benefit scroungers who don't want to work who we're all getting at

[mini93]

I don't work and don't pay tax.

I'm currently living off a student loan, whilst studying my degree.

Am I going to be cast out and burnt at the stake?

just to oppose everyone else....yes!!! run!!!!

[dave20046]

+ students tend to be a nice bunch

[Ethel]

I think many of you are still allowing yourselves to be duped. You may see the 'benefit scroungers' but there are those who cream off far more who you're not likely to bump in to outside Lidl or Tescos. Something like 10% of the population has 50% of the wealth and many do bugger all to earn it. If soceity cut the average worker a better deal then the benefit scroungers might be more inclined to join them. The rich are getting even richer and you're busy attacking the poorest because some of them may have given up playing the game as a lost cause.

[redhotmini]

I think many of you are still allowing yourselves to be duped. You may see the 'benefit scroungers' but there are those who cream off far more who you're not likely to bump in to outside Lidl or Tescos. Something like 10% of the population has 50% of the wealth and many do bugger all to earn it. If soceity cut the average worker a better deal then the benefit scroungers might be more inclined to join them. The rich are getting even richer and you're busy attacking the poorest because some of them may have given up playing the game as a lost cause.

thats how i see it. as far as im aware (i may be wrong though), is that the government dont tax the extremely rich much at all percentage wise, apparently to stop them depositing money in 'tax havens'. however, there are more people in the working class so to speak, so the government will always go for the 'easy target' (thats most of us then), and charge a higher rate to offset the tax discounts the rich people get. but there will always be some poor sod at the bottom of the ladder, who if he or she has a job, would be worse off than if they didnt, because of the highish taxes we pay.
im going to stop there, because a) i dont quite fully understand the whole tax thing, and b) i really couldnt care less where my tax goes, as long as im happy with whats in my wage packet each month ad i can get by, thats all i need.

[mini93]

I think many of you are still allowing yourselves to be duped. You may see the 'benefit scroungers' but there are those who cream off far more who you're not likely to bump in to outside Lidl or Tescos. Something like 10% of the population has 50% of the wealth and many do bugger all to earn it. If soceity cut the average worker a better deal then the benefit scroungers might be more inclined to join them. The rich are getting even richer and you're busy attacking the poorest because some of them may have given up playing the game as a lost cause.

again ethel hits the nail on the head...its pretty much how it always will be tho, govenment arent going to change it because they are all to rich in the 1st place "oh no we cant go outing our counterparts and assosiates...not to mention outself" to everyone else takes a hit...naturaly!

[dave20046]

I think many of you are still allowing yourselves to be duped. You may see the 'benefit scroungers' but there are those who cream off far more who you're not likely to bump in to outside Lidl or Tescos. Something like 10% of the population has 50% of the wealth and many do bugger all to earn it. If soceity cut the average worker a better deal then the benefit scroungers might be more inclined to join them. The rich are getting even richer and you're busy attacking the poorest because some of them may have given up playing the game as a lost cause.

I was thinking the same thing when I saw what someone posted about the tax threshholds. Why on earth is £35k top whack? If anything the people earning upto £35k should have their taxes lightened slightly and there should be new threshholds introduced £55k-£80k & £80k+ for example

Edited by dave20046, 07 February 2008 - 09:03 PM.

[stickycreambun]

Enjoy your almost frivolous lifestyle while you can xxxxx ( thats meant lighthearted by the way) xxx KC

woohoo! im doing something right then!!

[yorkshirechris]

Ethel, very well put, but haven't the super-rich done something to get there in the first place?

They haven't scrounged money from the government to get there have they? Surely company directors have actually worked, very hard, to get to that point?

I agree though with the idea that the super rich (say, 50k a year +) should be taxed more, and that money syphoned directly to initiatives to increase the minimum wage to at least £8 an hour to encourage "dole scroungers" to get a job.

Another idea which I'm inclined towards is this. If you're claiming JSA (job seekers allowance) and are not disabled, and cannot work due to illness - be given 6 months to find a job. If you can't get one in 6 months (you can apply for McDonalds tomorrow and start the day after!) then you have to work for your benefits, full time, doing community work - cleaning the streets, cleaning grafitti, things that benefit the local area. Yes people will grumble but it will encourage respect and appreciation for the society they live in. And if they get fed up of it, they can always get that job at McDonalds that the refused to take!

[nurseholliday]

50k = super rich???

Er... These days that's plain-jane middle class.

What annoys me is it's generally the work shy, 10 kid having, dole receiving, illness faking, scum(!) that hate students the most. WHY??

I fully agree with Ethel, that there are people out there who are far too rich for no apparent reason, and it's not people you see everyday, it's upper upper class.

I wouldn't say my family's rich, but we are definitely well off, and it's all because my dad has worked damn hard since he left school. I'm not saying other people haven't, but my dad's work ethic has always been work hard, that way he can make life the best possible for his family.

Edited by nurseholliday, 07 February 2008 - 09:32 PM.