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#46 wolfys_mini

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 06:03 PM

i find a pint or two. no more then two, will help me become quite soppy lol.

#47 Juju

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 06:54 PM

Figure out how you do this through the keyboard


Because I know you guys won't laugh at me or be nasty about it.



How do you know that? You don't know most of us.

Whether I can do it face to face is another matter.


The situation is no different. What's the worst that can happen?

#48 Mini_Magic

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 06:56 PM

Whether I can do it face to face is another matter.


The situation is no different. What's the worst that can happen?


They laugh and be nasty about it to my face.

Some people at work haven't exactly been nice about how shy and quiet I am. Doesn't matter now because I'm leaving tomorrow, but it's not because of them.

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 07:28 PM

T'internet gives you a couple of advantages: anonymity and the ability to edit yourself before you post what you have to say. You will have realised you rarely use those advantages so there's no reason why you can't transfer the same confidence to face to face situations.

Things that are irrational can be rationalised over so you can strive for a better outcome.

I think the problem with syndromes or other pseudo scientific labels are that they make more of the problem and lead you to look for solutions externally. Great for counsellors and psychology thesis writers, but not the best way to tackle what are ultimately individual problems. Take your lead from your Mini 'n fix it yourself :D

Edited by Ethel, 24 July 2008 - 07:29 PM.


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Posted 24 July 2008 - 07:30 PM

Figure out how you do this through the keyboard


Because I know you guys won't laugh at me or be nasty about it.



How do you know that? You don't know most of us.

Whether I can do it face to face is another matter.


The situation is no different. What's the worst that can happen?


The girl has a point.

#51 Mini_Magic

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 07:42 PM

I think the problem with syndromes or other pseudo scientific labels are that they make more of the problem and lead you to look for solutions externally. Great for counsellors and psychology thesis writers, but not the best way to tackle what are ultimately individual problems.


Perhaps, but I still feel the problem is serious enough to justify the label. Simply saying the person isn't confident just isn't enough.

Edited by Mini_Magic, 24 July 2008 - 07:45 PM.


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Posted 24 July 2008 - 07:49 PM

I think the problem with syndromes or other pseudo scientific labels are that they make more of the problem and lead you to look for solutions externally. Great for counsellors and psychology thesis writers, but not the best way to tackle what are ultimately individual problems.


Perhaps, but I still feel the problem is serious enough to justify the label. Simply saying the person isn't confident just isn't enough.


So how would you describe what the label means ????

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 07:50 PM

I also find it quite difficult when people call me shy and quiet to my face, I don't tend to stick up for myself.


Not exactly the most confidence boosting thing you can be told is it.

I used to be similar, probably not as "bad" in search of a better word.. but very much an introvert and shy. Over the last several years, especially the last 2 or 3, I've just learned to take everything everyone says as a pinch of salt unless it's my boss, or my parents, or my other half saying it. Infact with my ex I got to the point I didn't actually give a damn what she said anymore. Hence the "game over" for that relationship. Lol.

The main thing like it's been said is to finally get to grips with the fact that what people think of you does NOT matter and if they don't like you, so what?

I agree with the idea that there's too many "disorders" these days. I'm scared of spiders, wasps, bees and heights, and enclosed spaces, but I don't class myself as claustrophobic, arachnophobic, and god knows how many other "disorders" or labels that scientists/doctors/medical jobsworths decide to put on it.

Everyone is different and no-one fits into the "normal" category no matter who you are.

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 07:51 PM

Another thought.. when does a "disorder" become a "problem"? When it affects your life? But every aspect of you as a person affects your life and your path, why is that a problem?

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 07:55 PM

So how would you describe what the label means ????


Pretty much what I said on the second page of this thread.

Social phobia, also known as social anxiety disorder is a diagnosis within psychiatry and other mental health professions referring to excessive social anxiety (anxiety in social situations) causing abnormally considerable distress and impaired ability to function in at least some areas of daily life.


That pretty much sums up the condition, fearing social situations. A person who doesn't have much confidence will just be a bit quiet or not be as outgoing as other people. A person with S.A.D. will try to avoid social situations and will constantly be thinking about what others think about them, even when there is no one around.



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Posted 24 July 2008 - 07:57 PM

They laugh and be nasty about it to my face.


They obviously get a "kick" from this, or they wouldn't do it. If people think someone is a pushover they will take the p1ss, unfortunately people especially in environments such as offices can be very nasty and b1tchy. Glad I don't work in an environment like that or else I'd crack up I think.

Try giving them some flak back and see how it feels, should be quite liberating if anything.

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 07:59 PM

They laugh and be nasty about it to my face.


They obviously get a "kick" from this, or they wouldn't do it. If people think someone is a pushover they will take the p1ss, unfortunately people especially in environments such as offices can be very nasty and b1tchy. Glad I don't work in an environment like that or else I'd crack up I think.

Try giving them some flak back and see how it feels, should be quite liberating if anything.


Actually when I said that I just meant that was the worst that could happen, it doesn't actually happen to me lucky.

Some people do make a big deal about me being shy and quiet though.

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 08:01 PM

I havn't read the whole lot (but i will), But i must say that i can find it hard to speak / voice my opinions, and i get embarrassed very very easily. Its particularly difficult as im an electrician, always out on site with different types people being in different situations. And i tend to speak very quickly, which doesn't help.

Anyway im gonna have a read now.

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 08:48 PM

"Sounds like my Sister a few years ago. She used to get panic attacks in crowded places, or just public places. She just 'grew out' of it I think. For many months she'd just stay at home, or work, then she gradually started to go out more, and now she's fine"


Psychology student coming though :D

well for one.... it sounds like what jammy's sister had was agoraphobia. Not SAD.


Be careful not to self diagnose. In the psychology field there is such a HUGE overlap within the diagnostic critera that you may have one of 5 very similar things but there is such a fine line between one and the others that only a proper professional would be able to tell you what's what. And i am not trying to diagnose you either... That would be unethical lol

If your symptoms are interfering with everyday, general living then you should consult your GP. Just tell them your symptoms and let them see if it should be taken further and they may give you some form of drug / counselling or both.

*consults her diagnostic book*

Ok... well it looks like there isn't "social anxiety" disorder Per sé... and that is just a general term for a group of disorders? (i didnt read the link you put, though)

social phobia, panic disorder (w or w/o agoraphobia), GAD -generalised anxiety disorder, acute stress disorder

take your pick lol they are the main anxiety disorders outlined within my book anyhow.
And i think in the front it basically gives ALL the different disorders outlined within the DSM1V (Clinical diagnostic manual for psychs)

either way. if it is worrying you enough that you feel you should post on here, i reckon you should see your GP. They may even be able to put you in contact with a local support group for people with similar anxiety disorders as mentioned above.

Hope it all pans out well in the end, anyway :D

Edited by rocketbabydolls, 24 July 2008 - 08:52 PM.


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Posted 24 July 2008 - 08:54 PM

I wouldn't mind quite so much if I could just stop the excessive blushing, that one really gets me down.




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