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[MIGLIACARS]

well what is the shell, ive seen genuine cars have a

whole floor

boot floor

doors

boot

wings

A panels

bonnet

scuttle

finch panels!!!!

 

all just weld on

 

 

is that the same car!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[paulrockliffe]

Well quite, you see a few restorations where pretty much every panel is replaced and the only purpose the original shell provides is providing a jig for getting the new panels in the right place and avoiding an IVA.  Then all the other bits are replaced too....

[CityEPete]

People use that argument which is a valid one when comparing like for like, a mk 1 rebuilt into another mk1 shell as part of a full restoration is one thing, an 80s city E using every part of the city E that hasn't even been touched other than the tax exempt vin plate isn't the same.

[MIGLIACARS]

People use that argument which is a valid one when comparing like for like, a mk 1 rebuilt into another mk1 shell as part of a full restoration is one thing, an 80s city E using every part of the city E that hasn't even been touched other than the tax exempt vin plate isn't the same.

agreed

[Big Sam]

 

At this point can I mention r kid sold a mk2 cooper for 15 quid in 1982, and I like to remind him regularly

Oh I remember the days of being able to buy a half decent mini for just a couple of hundred quid. My sister bought an 84 city, for £500. A couple of months down the line she started having gearbox problems and sold for £50 spares and repairs. The bloke who bought it fixed the gearbox and then sold it for £500. I could have murdered my sister when she told me she'd sold it.

 

 

I bought my 89 Mayfair for £800 from a chap north of Blackpool, knocked him down from £1k aswell, it's worth more now in its current state than it was then. TBF it was a great deal then, little wrong with it, popped out of 3rd. Had someone over £1200 for it on my driveway a week after.

[Cooperman]

It's the same with all classics. I sold my 1973 Porsche 911 2.7 Carrera for £20,000 in 1996. A similar one sold for £250,000 recently.

 

I sold a 1949 Ford V8 Pilot for £2-50 in 1963 (it needed a bit of engine work). I guess it would be worth £15,000 now.

 

And as for the 1963 Mk.1 Lotus-Cortina which I bought for £450 in 1966, as an original alloy panelled A-frame suspension early car I can't guess what it might be worth now.

 

If you want to make money now is the time to buy into future classics. The MGB-GT is still cheap, as are things like the VW Golf GTI Mk.2 and Peugeot 205GTi.

The Jaguar XJS V12 is also still good value and set to increase rapidly. You can get a fairly good one for under £7000.

 

I also believe the Mk.1 Land-Rover Discovery, either petrol V8 or 2.5 Diesel, will become classics over the next 10 years, but you can buy a fairly good one for around £1000 at present and they are easy to work on with cheap parts available. They go quite well too and even a 300 TDi has about the same performance as an original 998 Cooper. They are reliable too.

[Northernpower]

It's the same with all classics. I sold my 1973 Porsche 911 2.7 Carrera for £20,000 in 1996. A similar one sold for £250,000 recently.
 
I sold a 1949 Ford V8 Pilot for £2-50 in 1963 (it needed a bit of engine work). I guess it would be worth £15,000 now.
 
And as for the 1963 Mk.1 Lotus-Cortina which I bought for £450 in 1966, as an original alloy panelled A-frame suspension early car I can't guess what it might be worth now.
 
If you want to make money now is the time to buy into future classics. The MGB-GT is still cheap, as are things like the VW Golf GTI Mk.2 and Peugeot 205GTi.
The Jaguar XJS V12 is also still good value and set to increase rapidly. You can get a fairly good one for under £7000.
 
I also believe the Mk.1 Land-Rover Discovery, either petrol V8 or 2.5 Diesel, will become classics over the next 10 years, but you can buy a fairly good one for around £1000 at present and they are easy to work on with cheap parts available. They go quite well too and even a 300 TDi has about the same performance as an original 998 Cooper. They are reliable too.

You're making me feel very old, I had a Saturday job in a performance car showroom when I was at uni and remember selling a lot of these cars and they weren't very old.

[Cooperman]

I sold my 1973 Capri 3000GXL for £1150 in 1975 which cost me £1027 in 1974. Bought a 1973 Jag XJ6 4.2 for £1800 to replace it. When my son was born in 1974 I bought a low-mileage Rover P6 3500 Auto at auction for £925. after 6 months I sold it for £1150 to a friend and bought the Capri direct from Ford as an ex-company car via their preferred buyer sealed auction system ( I was a Ford supplier).

 

I've lost count of all the cars I've had, but I have rarely lost much on any. The best value are large quality cars around 7 to 8 years old. For example, I bought my current BMW 730D almost 4 years ago, It is a 2007 car which when new, with all the options it has, would have cost £62,000. I paid £7990 for it with 88,000 miles on the clock and so far it has cost me around £1000 in repairs plus some tyres. It is superb to drive and last night I did a 180 mile journey in 2 hrs 30 mins at 35 mpg in total comfort. It is still worth c.£4500. If someone bought a new mid-range Ford they would lose the depreciation I have had in the first 3 months!

 

The 1964 Mini 850 I am currently restoring was part of a garage clearance for the mother of another friend. After I sold some of the stuff in the garage the 850 actually cost me nothing. Even with some new body panels fitted and ready for painting it still owes me nothing. When fully restored I reckon it will be worth between £10k and £12k. I mean, how many totally original fully restored Mk.1 850 Minis are out there now?

 

Just buy 'smart' and do any work yourself. Keep the classics as original as possible with only 'period mods' and you will make a healthy return as well as having the joy of ownership.

[mini 4o]

the list gets longer..

 

http://www.ebay.co.u...=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

[Rocket.]

the list gets longer..
 
http://www.ebay.co.u...=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Am I missing something?

What's wrong with this one?

[Dusky]

It's the same with all classics. I sold my 1973 Porsche 911 2.7 Carrera for £20,000 in 1996. A similar one sold for £250,000 recently.

 

I sold a 1949 Ford V8 Pilot for £2-50 in 1963 (it needed a bit of engine work). I guess it would be worth £15,000 now.

 

And as for the 1963 Mk.1 Lotus-Cortina which I bought for £450 in 1966, as an original alloy panelled A-frame suspension early car I can't guess what it might be worth now.

 

If you want to make money now is the time to buy into future classics. The MGB-GT is still cheap, as are things like the VW Golf GTI Mk.2 and Peugeot 205GTi.

The Jaguar XJS V12 is also still good value and set to increase rapidly. You can get a fairly good one for under £7000.

 

I also believe the Mk.1 Land-Rover Discovery, either petrol V8 or 2.5 Diesel, will become classics over the next 10 years, but you can buy a fairly good one for around £1000 at present and they are easy to work on with cheap parts available. They go quite well too and even a 300 TDi has about the same performance as an original 998 Cooper. They are reliable too.

reminds me of my dad, traded his chevrolet nomad for a pontiac fiero.
The pontiacs are for sale for around 5K over here. The nomad, in that condition, would fetch 50 now.
Fun story: he had to sell it because it was once used as a hearse and my mom thought it was too creepy when they found out.

[CityEPete]

the list gets longer..
 
http://www.ebay.co.u...=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Am I missing something?

What's wrong with this one?

I've seen that car come up before, it's either an MPI that's had no work other than four number plate screws and two pop rivets for the vin plate or it's an 89 Mayfair that's had a hell of a lot of work done, there was a heated debate previously I recall and conveniently there are no engine bay pictures listed with it this time either which would confirm what the shell is, airbag, inertia rear belts, MPI wiring loom, alter to front mounted rad (1300 injection engine I'm guessing it's all MPI up front?) that's a lot of work when someone must of had a complete 40th for breaking, surely restoring another mpi body and transferring everything over (that would have fitted easily too) and retaining the 40th V5c would have made more sense physically and financially? Jury is still out on that one for me, I'd want an engine bay picture and a close look at the scuttle mounted vin and an investigation into the engine number if it's an mpi one, if that engine number ties up to a stolen 40th via a full dealer level hpi check I think we have our answer.

Edited by CityEPete, 06 March 2017 - 12:56 PM.

[Rocket.]

Oh right I don't really know alot about the later cars

Interesting points being made

[CityEPete]

The thing is technically it could be an 89 with all the bits swapped, stranger things have been known, it's a buyer beware one though.

[mab01uk]

 

 

the list gets longer..
 
http://www.ebay.co.u...=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Am I missing something?

What's wrong with this one?

I've seen that car come up before, it's either an MPI that's had no work other than four number plate screws and two pop rivets for the vin plate or it's an 89 Mayfair that's had a hell of a lot of work done, there was a heated debate previously I recall and conveniently there are no engine bay pictures listed with it this time either which would confirm what the shell is, airbag, inertia rear belts, MPI wiring loom, alter to front mounted rad (1300 injection engine I'm guessing it's all MPI up front?) that's a lot of work when someone must of had a complete 40th for breaking, surely restoring another mpi body and transferring everything over (that would have fitted easily too) and retaining the 40th V5c would have made more sense physically and financially? Jury is still out on that one for me, I'd want an engine bay picture and a close look at the scuttle mounted vin and an investigation into the engine number if it's an mpi one, if that engine number ties up to a stolen 40th via a full dealer level hpi check I think we have our answer.

 

 

"Mr Champion from Paddock Wood in Kent" is 'Auto Design' who have been building custom Mini's and cabriolets in Kent since the early 1980's at least. He used to be a member of the 'Mini Cooper Club' and he would often build replicas like this using parts from late write offs. Looks to me like it is based on an earlier 1989 Mayfair and is not a genuine Mini 40 like the ad says, but some underbonnet shots would help confirm.

 

Auto Design - Cabriolet Specialists - Kent (1980's)

http://www.theminifo...sts-kent-1980s/

Edited by mab01uk, 06 March 2017 - 08:51 PM.